Transfers, 2023-24 season

[Kid Dynamite 5941]

If I had the choice I'd choose Pulisic over Hudson-Odoi. Both are preferable over Almiron and Murphy thouh

[Polarboy 2124]

9 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

It’s not necessarily tough as we’ve seen with Trippier, Botman, Pope, Burn, Target and Bruno.

 

Hopefully we can pick up a couple of loans in the last week.

 

 

 

Quality attacking players are much more expensive and difficult to get though. Bruno is perhaps the exception, but most people expected him to play in a more defensive role when he came in, given that's where he played for Lyon. It just so happened that he has incredible versatility. 

[Dr Gloom 19839]

41 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Moving up to the next rung of the quality ladder is going to be tough, but I'd rather we were patient and only spent money on quality with potential, as opposed to the Everton etc approach of overpaying for players who are the shortsighted flavour of the week at the time they were signed. 40m for the Icelandic nonce for example. If we overpay now we could very easily miss the opportunity to spend money on real quality later if we max out our FFP. 

Definitely feels like we’re heading towards a couple of loan signings. Not a bad idea given where we are now 

[Polarboy 2124]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Definitely feels like we’re heading towards a couple of loan signings. Not a bad idea given where we are now 

 

I still think we'll make one permanent signing. We seem to have a few different irons in the fire, and we still have a couple of weeks left. I think Ideally PIF will want at least one more big name signing this window. If we were willing to spend 45m on Maddison presumably that money is still burning a hole in our back pockets for the right player. 

[toonotl 2431]

The loans are an excellent move for the time being, and there's always the possibility to buy with these sorts of things. It seems a perfect stepping stone solution for the season to aim to loan a few, continue to progress, and take to the market next season to chase permanent transfers for attacking players. We could be a much more attractive prospect than we are now in 12 more months. Not that we aren't now, but as has been said, there appears to be a bit of a gulf between where we are currently and the tier of front-third attacking players we're attempting to attract to come this window. If some of those we've been in for this window see us performing well in the league, then they may also push harder for a move come this time next season.

 

Personally, I'm loving this window. The fact we're even in the conversation for players that PSG and AC Milan and the like are chasing is something very strange to get used to.

[Dr Gloom 19839]

3 minutes ago, toonotl said:

The loans are an excellent move for the time being, and there's always the possibility to buy with these sorts of things. It seems a perfect stepping stone solution for the season to aim to loan a few, continue to progress, and take to the market next season to chase permanent transfers for attacking players. We could be a much more attractive prospect than we are now in 12 more months. Not that we aren't now, but as has been said, there appears to be a bit of a gulf between where we are currently and the tier of front-third attacking players we're attempting to attract to come this window. If some of those we've been in for this window see us performing well in the league, then they may also push harder for a move come this time next season.

 

Personally, I'm loving this window. The fact we're even in the conversation for players that PSG and AC Milan and the like are chasing is something very strange to get used to.

it’s been absolutely bloody brilliant. I don’t 

understand how some dicks on Twitter are losing it. Genuinely can’t remember the last time a summer transfer window was this interesting 

[Dougle 2865]

17 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

it’s been absolutely bloody brilliant. I don’t 

understand how some dicks on Twitter are losing it. Genuinely can’t remember the last time a summer transfer window was this interesting 

 

Look no further than the salty comments on here man, in the tiny minority I know, but they are here.

Fickle idiots.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Dougle

[Dougle 2865]

On 14/08/2022 at 12:23, Kid Dynamite said:

Or minus Botman and plus Maddison...

 Where is the start of that exchange Mr Fickle?

[Kid Dynamite 5941]

Lose your boner for me poogle, no-one cares

[Dougle 2865]

I have no boner for you, I was pointing out that the reactionary twitter goons exist on here too and that you are a canny example.

 

Sorry I had to edit this.

poogle?

Seriously? Ach I suppose I am a poocastle supporter. FTM 6 in a row etc marra.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Dougle

[Polarboy 2124]

[Kid Dynamite 5941]

Cool beans bro. There's an ignore function on here if it makes you feel better 😘 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Kid Dynamite

[Dougle 2865]

8 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Cool beans bro. There's an ignore function on here if it makes you feel better 😘 

 

You are fine mate 👍

[thebrokendoll 7110]

9 hours ago, Dougle said:

 

Look no further than the salty comments on here man, in the tiny minority I know, but they are here.

 

 

 when did pointing out the need for attacking upgrades or the hope to see them come in constitute being a fickle idiot rather than stating the bleeding obvious?

Edited August 16, 2022 by thebrokendoll

[wykikitoon 16734]

 

 

 

[ewerk 26469]

The problem seems to be that our valuations don't match those from any of the selling clubs and that's not going to improve any closer to the end of the window.

[wykikitoon 16734]

Aye.  It's part of the process though init?  Go in with an offer, they say 'nah, we want x' and then negotiate from there?

[ewerk 26469]

Yeah but the idea is that you meet somewhere in the middle. Our valuations look to be way below what other clubs are looking. It isn't a bad precedent to set, showing that we won't be put over a barrel, but eventually you have to start actually signing some players.

[spongebob toonpants 3606]

I'm still happily trusting the process. The only thing that I think any of these rumours prove, and let's be honest it's all just gossip at this stage, is that we have a long term strategy and we are not going to be fucked around

Judging by the incoming transfers so far its a strategy I'm more than ok with

Edited August 16, 2022 by spongebob toonpants

[Toonpack 6887]

7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Aye.  It's part of the process though init?  Go in with an offer, they say 'nah, we want x' and then negotiate from there?

 

 Or it's: that's our valuation, take it or leave it, they may tinker with the structure, more up front less as add-ons etc. perhaps that's what they are setting up their position to be, NUFC will offer what they are prepared to pay "take it or leave it".

[wykikitoon 16734]

2 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Yeah but the idea is that you meet somewhere in the middle. Our valuations look to be way below what other clubs are looking. It isn't a bad precedent to set, showing that we won't be put over a barrel, but eventually you have to start actually signing some players.

Aye totally.  

Surly there is an initial conversation had with either the club or the agent on what they value the player at and then we put an offer in?  I don't know.  But yes, the closer to deadline day we are surly not in the best position as everyone knows we need forward players.  So we either pay, or go into the first part of the season with a squad lacking in depth.

IMO Tab end Longstaff, Murphy need to be looked to be moved on ASAP.
 

[Toonpack 6887]

8 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Yeah but the idea is that you meet somewhere in the middle. Our valuations look to be way below what other clubs are looking. It isn't a bad precedent to set, showing that we won't be put over a barrel, but eventually you have to start actually signing some players.

 

We've signed quite a few compared to years gone by.

[wykikitoon 16734]

Harrison again

[ewerk 26469]

10 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

We've signed quite a few compared to years gone by.

 

I'm not one of those moaning fuckers but if you look at the deals we've completed this summer, while they're all quality players, they've been fairly straightforward to do. We've been in talks for Botman for at least six months, Targett was already surplus to requirements at Villa and had been here on loan and Pope was never going to play in the Championship for Burnley.

 

Not every deal is going to be that easy and our owners are very new to all this so we just have to have faith that Dan Ashworth can guide them.

[trophyshy 6434]

We could do with the pulling power Keegan had.