Toonpack 15590 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 5 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: A great illustration of how the game has moved on, grab your copy of Shoot in the 70's/80's and a picture of the first team staff would have been the players, manager, first team coach, the trainer and maybe the kit man, today it's an army !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50732 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 8 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: I like how Eddie and Tindall have positioned themselves here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42149 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 2 hours ago, Toonpack said: A great illustration of how the game has moved on, grab your copy of Shoot in the 70's/80's and a picture of the first team staff would have been the players, manager, first team coach, the trainer and maybe the kit man, today it's an army !! And only about 16 players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 18035 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 I love the stat that Villa won the title in 1980/81 using just 14 players. Inconceivable from today's perspective. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42149 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Meenzer said: I love the stat that Villa won the title in 1980/81 using just 14 players. Inconceivable from today's perspective. Only one sub allowed then too which I don’t think changed until the end of the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12379 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 28 minutes ago, Alex said: Only one sub allowed then too which I don’t think changed until the end of the 80s. 87/88 was the first season of 2 subs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63190 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Hopkinson's answer when he was asked about the stadium was basically "I don't know" according to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15590 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Hopkinson's answer when he was asked about the stadium was basically "I don't know" according to this. The quotes per Waugh were along the lines of "it's a massive and complex project, biggest in the clubs history, so I can't give any definitive answer or set a deadline for that answer, as I don't want to set false expectations, but we are working hard on it every single day". I really, REALLY, don't get the furore about a new stadium, it'll happen when it happens and it'll be anounced when the plans/funding etc. is ready. Totally chilled about it here. Yeah, we'd like the extra reveue it'd bring (in about 5 years if it was announced tomorrow), I'd rather have increased revenue near term announcements from additional sponsorships as a more pressing matter tbh. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63190 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 I think they're taking an awful long time tbh. They haven't even made a decision yet, never mind set a project in motion. And, like it or not, people see the stadium as indicative of the commitment of PIF to the club, and the continued non-decision doesn't look or feel great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12379 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 New crest will come before a new stadium, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15590 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I think they're taking an awful long time tbh. They haven't even made a decision yet, never mind set a project in motion. And, like it or not, people see the stadium as indicative of the commitment of PIF to the club, and the continued non-decision doesn't look or feel great. There is a project in motion, they're doing evaluations/due dilligence etc etc, we had PIF's infrastructure blokey added to the board for example. I remember the days when all that mattered were the results on the pitch and under current ownership they've never been better (well not since the 1950's) seeking some ethereal sense of commitment from the ownership is daft. Even if/when they cough up for a new stadium it means little in terms of commitment, just means they're increasing the value of their assett should they want to cash in. I personally suspect part of a delay is them looking for a development partner btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63190 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 2 minutes ago, Toonpack said: There is a project in motion, they're doing evaluations/due dilligence etc etc, we had PIF's infrastructure blokey added to the board for example. I remember the days when all that mattered were the results on the pitch and under current ownership they've never been better (well not since the 1950's) seeking some ethereal sense of commitment from the ownership is daft. Even if/when they cough up for a new stadium it means little in terms of commitment, just means they're increasing the value of their assett should they want to cash in. I personally suspect part of a delay is them looking for a development partner btw. I mean a post-decision project. The feasibility studies have long been completed. I totally get people wanting to know and wanting them to crack on with it. I watched some video of the Hill Dickinson stadium, and it looks fucking class, outside and in, and I want us to get on with building a new super stadium and to have a chance to watch a match in it before I'm 60. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15590 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I mean a post-decision project. The feasibility studies have long been completed. I totally get people wanting to know and wanting them to crack on with it. I watched some video of the Hill Dickinson stadium, and it looks fucking class, outside and in, and I want us to get on with building a new super stadium and to have a chance to watch a match in it before I'm 60. Yeah I get that, but the way some go on is beyond me tbh. Edited December 2 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15590 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Seems Clery and Pod on the Tyne won their respective category awards at the FSA last night !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 6000 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Toonpack said: Yeah I get that, but the way some go on is beyond me tbh. I think it's more than just the prestige and excitement of a new stadium though now isnt't it with PSR. We need the bigger income streams, sponsorships etc to be able to invest more in the squad etc etc. That's the part that's most frustrating for me about the delays in the stadium and new training ground. All linked to added revenue in the stinking modern world of PSR football or whatever they are calling it these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 26346 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 2 hours ago, Toonpack said: The quotes per Waugh were along the lines of "it's a massive and complex project, biggest in the clubs history, so I can't give any definitive answer or set a deadline for that answer, as I don't want to set false expectations, but we are working hard on it every single day". I really, REALLY, don't get the furore about a new stadium, it'll happen when it happens and it'll be anounced when the plans/funding etc. is ready. Totally chilled about it here. Yeah, we'd like the extra reveue it'd bring (in about 5 years if it was announced tomorrow), I'd rather have increased revenue near term announcements from additional sponsorships as a more pressing matter tbh. The extra revenue will be great but most of us on here would like the opportunity to buy a season ticket, or just have more success getting to the game than the current ballot system allows, before we die. At this rate, death might come first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17238 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Toonpack said: Seems Clery and Pod on the Tyne won their respective category awards at the FSA last night !! Christ, how shit must the other podcasts be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 6000 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 I like Clery but Pod on the Tyne is a miserably dross affair usually, couldn't bother listening after an episode or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28541 Posted December 2 Author Share Posted December 2 I listened to it ages ago but it was just that Besty or whatever and Caulkin taking the piss out of wagh and making out they were ballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9340 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: I think they're taking an awful long time tbh. They haven't even made a decision yet, never mind set a project in motion. And, like it or not, people see the stadium as indicative of the commitment of PIF to the club, and the continued non-decision doesn't look or feel great. A new stadium is the only chance I'll get to actually watch us play football regularly without having to beg, borrow and steal from mates or hit refresh on the website 4000 times a day. I completely get why people are impatient. This carrot has been dangled for 3 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22495 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 7 points from man city, Everton and Spurs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63190 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 1 hour ago, PaddockLad said: 7 points from man city, Everton and Spurs Exactly. Dead frustrating last night, and arguably this is the worst version of Spurs we've seen in a while, but nevertheless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43930 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 I'm still fizzing this morning we lost yet more points at the death, I'm sorry. Even got a Liverpool penalty at the end and still fucked it. Yes we should look a lot better when we've Wissa as a viable option up front but you could spin it and say wtf are we going to do if our young full backs get injured need a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 421 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 15 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: I'm still fizzing this morning we lost yet more points at the death, I'm sorry. Even got a Liverpool penalty at the end and still fucked it. Yes we should look a lot better when we've Wissa as a viable option up front but you could spin it and say wtf are we going to do if our young full backs get injured need a rest? On the full backs point, this is where we have to see Eddie rotate. The squad absolutely should have enough to dispatch Burnley without them both. So perhaps Murphy Schar Burn Murphy Or burn moves to LB (shudders) and Thiaw stays in. I could see this line up Saturday Ramsdale J Murphy Thiaw Schar Burn Bruno Willock Ramsey Elanga Gordon Woltemade Barnes, Hall, Tino, Joelinton & Tonali (if fit) to come on. Gordon moving up top late on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63190 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 4 minutes ago, NobbySol said: So perhaps Murphy Schar Burn Murphy It's a lot to ask of Murphy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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