RobElliott 2390 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Don't think so. We have bid and offered market value for a player who was promised he could leave. And they have said no The bindipping cunts have clearly went to Isak first and unsettled him (tapped up) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12387 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: wissa had a gentleman’s agreement with Brentford which they reneged on. plus we put in an official bid. No tapping up beforehand. This. We've behaved completely above board in the Wissa situation. We haven't tapped him up ahead of putting a bid in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 2390 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 9 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I think we’ll end up with Nunez, Wissa and DCL. Ballsy prediction. Imagine Nunez gets the Big Joe transformation and bags 30 goals while Isak does his groin in the first game for the cunts and out for the season. One can dream eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15535 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Sub Title adjusted 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 16205 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Was it Dyer who put a transfer request in and then broke his leg almost immediately after he fucked off? Sometimes I can get behind a bit of history repeating itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12387 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, RobElliott said: Imagine Nunez gets the Big Joe transformation and bags 30 goals while Isak does his groin in the first game for the cunts and out for the season. One can dream eh? Even better - Isak avoids the game completely and Nunez bags a hat-trick against his former club. Magnificent - right up there with Carroll throwing himself to the ground when he had an open goal & Enrique ending up in goal back in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14272 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, Tom said: Sub Title adjusted that's the spirit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1783 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I am not on the same page with a lot of people with this one. I just don't think Isak leaving is going to be the big deal most people think. He has really good stats. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the world. He has also played a big part in our first silverware. However, I also think he goes missing for long spells of both parts of a game and games in general. He seems to miss a lot of really straightforward opportunities but then scores some screamers and all is forgotten. I think there is every chance that he does a Torres and goes for the big move to never make it to the same standards. I do think he will do well at Liverpool as he is going to have a lot of service put into him. I think we can replace him and go onto the next levels. A lot of his success has come off the backs of Gordon, Murphy and Joelinton doing a lot of the donkey work. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14272 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Renton said: Even I'm beginning to hate Liverpool at this stage. Fuck off you scouse bin dipping cunts and that goes for you middle class Norwegian tourist arseclarts too. hate is healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 2390 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: I am not on the same page with a lot of people with this one. I just don't think Isak leaving is going to be the big deal most people think. He has really good stats. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the world. He has also played a big part in our first silverware. However, I also think he goes missing for long spells of both parts of a game and games in general. He seems to miss a lot of really straightforward opportunities but then scores some screamers and all is forgotten. I think there is every chance that he does a Torres and goes for the big move to never make it to the same standards. I do think he will do well at Liverpool as he is going to have a lot of service put into him. I think we can replace him and go onto the next levels. A lot of his success has come off the backs of Gordon, Murphy and Joelinton doing a lot of the donkey work. Aye great points. Goals cover up a lot too. Remember Wood got loads of flack here but I thought he was great, work ethics, pressing and ball retention bringing others in was a huge part of our uptick in form. Thought he did a great job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: I am not on the same page with a lot of people with this one. I just don't think Isak leaving is going to be the big deal most people think. He has really good stats. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the world. He has also played a big part in our first silverware. However, I also think he goes missing for long spells of both parts of a game and games in general. He seems to miss a lot of really straightforward opportunities but then scores some screamers and all is forgotten. I think there is every chance that he does a Torres and goes for the big move to never make it to the same standards. I do think he will do well at Liverpool as he is going to have a lot of service put into him. I think we can replace him and go onto the next levels. A lot of his success has come off the backs of Gordon, Murphy and Joelinton doing a lot of the donkey work. I think there's elements of truth in this. I think he's done very well in our system - he may do there as well, but the system is better than any one player in the end. The difficulty is we'd have to train a new striker to that level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1783 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I think there's elements of truth in this. I think he's done very well in our system - he may do there as well, but the system is better than any one player in the end. The difficulty is we'd have to train a new striker to that level. This is something that concerns me. I thought Wood did a great job for us but the system didn’t work for him. He wasn't 'successful' in many respects. Osula has not been 'successful' either which is a concern. Neither has Gordon when he has played up top, granted that is not his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15535 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Osula is good fun but I highly doubt he can be anything but a back up to a back up if we are to get anywhere. He’s the equivalent of letting a dog run on the pitch 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: This is something that concerns me. I thought Wood did a great job for us but the system didn’t work for him. He wasn't 'successful' in many respects. Osula has not been 'successful' either which is a concern. Neither has Gordon when he has played up top, granted that is not his position. Aye. We will be fine without Isak as long as he is well replaced. Had we got Ekitike or hell, even if we got this Sesko guy, I'm actually fine for him to go. I'd prefer it wasn't to Liverpool, but ultimately I can live with it if we're stronger in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27792 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 12 minutes ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: I am not on the same page with a lot of people with this one. I just don't think Isak leaving is going to be the big deal most people think. He has really good stats. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the world. He has also played a big part in our first silverware. However, I also think he goes missing for long spells of both parts of a game and games in general. He seems to miss a lot of really straightforward opportunities but then scores some screamers and all is forgotten. I think there is every chance that he does a Torres and goes for the big move to never make it to the same standards. I do think he will do well at Liverpool as he is going to have a lot of service put into him. I think we can replace him and go onto the next levels. A lot of his success has come off the backs of Gordon, Murphy and Joelinton doing a lot of the donkey work. 100% agree. But the immediate issue is we've lost Wilson and are left with almost nothing in the striker compartment. I think Isak is more than replaceable but time is against us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28562 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 36 minutes ago, Tom said: Sub Title adjusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1837 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Ben Jacobs (is he reliable?) saying that Liverpool have no plans to bid again based on the refusal they got. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Until next week when they come out and claim that they're really just trying to help us out of a difficult situation and come back with £115m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12387 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 23 minutes ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: I am not on the same page with a lot of people with this one. I just don't think Isak leaving is going to be the big deal most people think. He has really good stats. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the world. He has also played a big part in our first silverware. However, I also think he goes missing for long spells of both parts of a game and games in general. He seems to miss a lot of really straightforward opportunities but then scores some screamers and all is forgotten. I think there is every chance that he does a Torres and goes for the big move to never make it to the same standards. I do think he will do well at Liverpool as he is going to have a lot of service put into him. I think we can replace him and go onto the next levels. A lot of his success has come off the backs of Gordon, Murphy and Joelinton doing a lot of the donkey work. My concern is less about him going, and more about us not having anything waiting in the wings. As Downie says we've got Osula, and that's it. It's not enough for standard PL season, let alone one with a CL campaign in the mix. If we get suitable replacements before he signs any deal with another club then it's less of an issue for me, but I'm concerned we won't do that and that is the reason I'd want to retain him. Shearer is right - no player is bigger than the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 6701 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Ben Jacobs (is he reliable?) saying that Liverpool have no plans to bid again based on the refusal they got. Given the lack of staff I would guess one of the office juniors picked up the fax, drew a knob on and sent it back 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63254 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Ben Jacobs (is he reliable?) saying that Liverpool have no plans to bid again based on the refusal they got. He's the same lad that was saying they wouldn't bid until they had an indication from Newcastle that the bid would be accepted. He's probably been asked by Liverpool to say this so Isak goes in an even bigger huff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1783 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Ben Jacobs (is he reliable?) saying that Liverpool have no plans to bid again based on the refusal they got. There is no way that he could know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12387 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Aye. We will be fine without Isak as long as he is well replaced. Had we got Ekitike or hell, even if we got this Sesko guy, I'm actually fine for him to go. I'd prefer it wasn't to Liverpool, but ultimately I can live with it if we're stronger in general. The irony is if we'd got Ekitike, we'd possibly have accepted Liverpool's bid earlier today. They've shot themselves in the foot wanting both! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15535 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Isak is gone - the rest is theatre. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12387 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Ben Jacobs (is he reliable?) saying that Liverpool have no plans to bid again based on the refusal they got. I really do hope that is true ... not necessarily because of the retention but that it leave Isak's camp (i'm citing most, if not all, of the blame on his agent) in a very awkward position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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