Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Who's he confirmed it with though, apart from Reuben? Regardless of it possibly being true it's a PR guff bone from the club to throw to the pack "Regardless of it possibly being true". I know you don't like Hope, but people reporting the truth is alright by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9903 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, NJS said: I was happy for him to stay and trusted Eddie on this but after the statement and then the refusal to reconsider after the Rueben peace talks I gave up on him completely. Still think we should have put incoming first though. I hope they have another big Nick rabbit to pull out of the hat, I think there was no way back after he released that public statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14245 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Hope has confirmed it. It's up the page. the same hope that no cunt has good word for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, thebrokendoll said: the same hope that no cunt has good word for? I'm not bothered about that. He clearly gets information from the club and has been out on front on the story all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyWatson 164 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 7 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I suspect we’ll have to pay silly money for JSL. Like, £70m silly. The problem is that unless we’ve already got someone lined up to move then clubs can literally name their own price, no matter how eye-watering a figure that might be. No way can we seriously expect to have a decent season with Woltermade (obviously talented but young and no PL experience) Osula & Gordon being our only options. I’m hoping that we sorted that out before letting the rat leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 2390 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I think Hope gets a bad rep I think he is decent and you get no fluff he tells it as he has been told. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9903 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, RandyWatson said: The problem is that unless we’ve already got someone lined up to move then clubs can literally name their own price, no matter how eye-watering a figure that might be. No way can we seriously expect to have a decent season with Woltermade (obviously talented but young and no PL experience) Osula & Gordon being our only options. I’m hoping that we sorted that out before letting the rat leave. it doesn’t appear we have, which is why some on here are baffled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 34 minutes ago, Gemmill said: You're just in a huff cos your bet's dead. Your last sentence is bollocks. We've taken a pragmatic approach and made a £100m PSR profit on a player who was never going to play for us again. Any other action would have been more detrimental to us than Liverpool. It's fuck all to do with my being a huff and everything to do with the club capitulating to the snake and red scouse cunts. Remember just a few months ago after the Everton match when Yasir Al-Rumayyan left with just a single message: "Alexander Isak must not be sold"? Remember when we rejected Liverpool's first offer with such force that they said there's no point in coming back with a second offer? Remember when the club released a statement saying that Isak would only be sold for the fee we had asked and when we had signed two strikers? We have clearly capitulated at the last minute. We're not under PSR pressure. We could have held on to the player and seen what way the cards fell after the window. Instead we've given Liverpool and the player everything they asked for while we're left with William Osula and an untested German as our two options up front. It's a fucking shambles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 4598 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 People on here can shrug shoulders and say “oh well, we wanted rid anyway” but we have had our pants well and truly pulled down by a direct rival. Meanwhile Brentford, aye Fucking Brentford are standing firm on a player in his last contracted year. Get to fuck man. This is not a good look for our club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, ewerk said: It's fuck all to do with my being a huff and everything to do with the club capitulating to the snake and red scouse cunts. Remember just a few months ago after the Everton match when Yasir Al-Rumayyan left with just a single message: "Alexander Isak must not be sold"? Remember when we rejected Liverpool's first offer with such force that they said there's no point in coming back with a second offer? Remember when the club released a statement saying that Isak would only be sold for the fee we had asked and when we had signed two strikers? We have clearly capitulated at the last minute. We're not under PSR pressure. We could have held on to the player and seen what way the cards fell after the window. Instead we've given Liverpool and the player everything they asked for while we're left with William Osula and an untested German as our two options up front. It's a fucking shambles. Loads of water under the bridge since all of the milestones you've posted above. All of which combined to make him staying at the club as close to impossible as you can get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, Gemmill said: Loads of water under the bridge since all of the milestones you've posted above. All of which combined to make him staying at the club as close to impossible as you can get. What has happened? He met Reuben and some cunts from PIF and re-iterated his stance. That's literally all that has happened in the past week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10613 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 https://x.com/CraigHope_DM/status/1962402153412038764?t=ZlKxZXuDuwUvhZ1fWSsDtw&s=19 The RAT apparently didn't officially put in a transfer request but the loyalty bonus won't be paid. This make sense as far as the lower price being suggested. To have paid him a loyalty bonus would have been outrageous. I don't hope he gets injured, I'd prefer if he's fully fit but can't crack a starting spot over Ekitike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 4598 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, OTF said: https://x.com/CraigHope_DM/status/1962402153412038764?t=ZlKxZXuDuwUvhZ1fWSsDtw&s=19 The RAT apparently didn't officially put in a transfer request but the loyalty bonus won't be paid. This make sense as far as the lower price being suggested. To have paid him a loyalty bonus would have been outrageous. I don't hope he gets injured, I'd prefer if he's fully fit but can't crack a starting spot over Ekitike. Is Mr Agent still getting his cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22498 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: "Regardless of it possibly being true". I know you don't like Hope, but people reporting the truth is alright by me. It's not that I don't like him, it's that he's basically the Byker Laura Kuessenberg. He's getting fed first hand by someone wanting to put a certain message out. Reuben thinks that this tidbit is some sort of win and will in some way placate us. That's taking the fanbase/his customers for fucking idiots at a time where it's looking like he's been part of a monumentally fucking useless senior management team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: It's not £15m though. According to Ornstein: "The deal is worth £130million ($176m) to Newcastle due to solidarity payments and will cost Liverpool £125m." Which is a bit like including the money we'll save by getting him off the wage bill. Ornstein has been on Liverpool's side of this all summer and has been being fed by Liverpool and Isak’s agent. I don't think he has any sort of inside track on what the deal is worth to Newcastle and anything he reports is coming from one side (not ours). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 24 minutes ago, Dougle said: Where are you getting 140 from? £130 fee was the first report, his bonus was circa £10/11 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 6697 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, ewerk said: What has happened? He met Reuben and some cunts from PIF and re-iterated his stance. That's literally all that has happened in the past week. Maybe it’s as simple as Howe having had enough 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, PaddockLad said: It's not that I don't like him, it's that he's basically the Byker Laura Kuessenberg. He's getting fed first hand by someone wanting to put a certain message out. Reuben thinks that this tidbit is some sort of win and will in some way placate us. That's taking the fanbase/his customers for fucking idiots at a time where it's looking like he's been part of a monumentally fucking useless senior management team. It clearly isn't taking them for idiots though. People on here have been saying "I fucking hope the rat isn't getting his loyalty bonus" and that has been confirmed to us. People wanted/needed to hear that the fucking rat hasn't walked away with his loyalty bonus. The terrible executive appointments, you'll get no argument from me on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Ornstein has been on Liverpool's side of this all summer and has been being fed by Liverpool and Isak’s agent. I don't think he has any sort of inside track on what the deal is worth to Newcastle and anything he reports is coming from one side (not ours). Ah right. Craig Hope spits pure facts but Ornstein is just a Liverpool puppet? Despite them both reporting the same information. Edited September 1 by ewerk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: What has happened? He met Reuben and some cunts from PIF and re-iterated his stance. That's literally all that has happened in the past week. What's happened since Al Rummayan said not to sell him? How long have you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: What has happened? He met Reuben and some cunts from PIF and re-iterated his stance. That's literally all that has happened in the past week. And Eddie patently washed his hands of him. Reintegration would have been Eddie's job, "other people handling that" was get rid IMO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10613 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, Dougle said: People on here can shrug shoulders and say “oh well, we wanted rid anyway” but we have had our pants well and truly pulled down by a direct rival. Meanwhile Brentford, aye Fucking Brentford are standing firm on a player in his last contracted year. Get to fuck man. This is not a good look for our club. It would be lovely if we pursued Liverpool for the very obvious way in which they tapped up our contracted player without our permission. As others have said this could make sense of we reveal a striker who we have signed. If not then I agree that it makes us appear weak. Setting aside pride and vindictiveness he needed to be removed from our club for us to be able to move on with this season. The media and the constant rumours and speculation about him would have been a massive distraction. Howe has been begrudingly dealing with this shit over and over in press conferences if anyone brings it up in our next one they should be immediately thrown out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14245 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 so who is your prediction for the next player the murderers will decide they can take on the cheap, whenever they fancy and with only pitiful resistance from the owners? tobali? livramento? hall? gordon? mebbees the new kid if he has a decent season? don't get too attached to any fucker, we had every opportunity to tell them to fuck off and failed. we're still very much a feeder club. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, ewerk said: Ah right. Craig Hope spits pure facts but Ornstein is just a Liverpool puppet? I mean, are you really arguing that Ornstein hasn't spent the summer parroting Isak and Liverpool's lines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 7478 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I think some of you might need to take the day off and go do something nice. I get being unhappy about the transfer but the headloss is unreal. Its a wonder half of you are still alive. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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