Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Tom said: I don’t think it’s specific to the 4 posts there but like others she’s been at it for years. I.e people would rather not hear from her about it. read this https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/ then check out some of the twitter abuse in the screenshot gemmil posted - perhaps i'm missing something but it doesn't add up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13811 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 She trolls and gets trolled. I have no sympathy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: https://medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d I think I might be Team Rowling. Abuse on Twitter? Well I never. Edited June 11, 2020 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3587 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Sex and gender different things innit For what it's worth my daughter is gay and full on team jk. Lot of men in this thread telling women what to think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I'm not sure anyone on here has told a woman what to think but okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, spongebob toonpants said: Sex and gender different things it's undeniable. as far as i can tell, this is what a lot of the trans mafia and the radical feminists clash over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34185 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 For the record, I'd be more than happy to if there were any here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13811 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Someone text Cath or write to Bridget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Meenzer said: True like. You make one little comment about how autistic girls are being tricked into transitioning and suddenly there's a #WeAreNotConfused hashtag full of actual autistic trans people telling you you're wrong, based solely on [checks notes] their own lived experience. Everyone's so sensitive these days. is that what she said that people lost their minds over? i can see why autistic people who have transitioned and are happy would take offence at that. but it was difficult to tell if that was the scandalous thing she said because the twitter replies i waded through were mainly about why she has a dry stinking cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13984 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: is that what she said that people lost their minds over? i can see why autistic people who have transitioned and are happy would take offence at that. but it was difficult to tell if that was the scandalous thing she said because the twitter replies i waded through were mainly about why she has a dry stinking cunt. Not just that, that was one little comment she made among lots of others. Which goes to explain why the responses have been similarly scattershot and hard for people to get a handle on (the constructive ones, obviously - the outright abuse isn't helpful to anyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ewerk said: It's a discussion I find very hard to follow. The gay thing is easy, men want to get married then fair enough, lesbians want to adopt then good luck to them. On the face of it trans issues should be as simple. If you identify as a woman or as a man then crack on. But Linehan et. al seem to be claiming that lesbians are now being forced to suck dick against their will because of this. I tried reading the JKR essay but five minutes in I guessed I was wasting my time. Like her books then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: is that what she said that people lost their minds over? i can see why autistic people who have transitioned and are happy would take offence at that. but it was difficult to tell if that was the scandalous thing she said because the twitter replies i waded through were mainly about why she has a dry stinking cunt. The 'left wing' Twitter contingent were saying things like that..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: The 'left wing' Twitter contingent were saying things like that..?? https://medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: is that what she said that people lost their minds over? i can see why autistic people who have transitioned and are happy would take offence at that. but it was difficult to tell if that was the scandalous thing she said because the twitter replies i waded through were mainly about why she has a dry stinking cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: https://medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d Fucking Wow. You could be forgiven for thinking that these were the hatetrolls from the far right tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ewerk said: On the face of it trans issues should be as simple. If you identify as a woman or as a man then crack on. no reasonable person would argue otherwise but that isn't what rowling said, as far as i can tell. it's the gender/sex debate - which isn't really up for debate biologically speaking - that i suspect is what has caused so many people to lose their shit. i might be wrong and would be happy if someone could show me otherwise, but i'm still struggling with what exactly it was that generated the abusive response. Edited June 11, 2020 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: no reasonable person would argue otherwise but that isn't what rowling said, as far as i can tell. it's the gender/sex debate - which isn't really up for debate biologically speaking - that i suspect is what has caused do many people to lose their shit. i might be wrong and would be happy if someone could show me otherwise, but i'm still struggling with what exactly it was that generated the abusive response. Nothing completely outrageous but she does have a history of hating on the trans community. https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/12/19/21029874/jk-rowling-transgender-tweet-terf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38572 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said: Sex and gender different things innit For what it's worth my daughter is gay and full on team jk. Lot of men in this thread telling women what to think 48 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm not sure anyone on here has told a woman what to think but okay... Women thinking. Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: Nothing completely outrageous but she does have a history of hating on the trans community. https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/12/19/21029874/jk-rowling-transgender-tweet-terf thanks. that was an interesting read. i'm not 100% sure which side oif the debate i'm on. i support trans people and their rights to identify however they like. but rowling isn't wrong about making a distinction between trans women and biological women - is she? i'm in danger of coming across as transphobic but i laughed out loud at this line In one case, Forstater repeatedly misgendered a nonbinary person on Twitter. i mean, i'm sure that is an offensive thing to do to someone but i'm struggling not to feel like a daily mail reader here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: thanks. that was an interesting read. i'm not 100% sure which side oif the debate i'm on. i support trans people and their rights to identify however they like. but rowling isn't wrong about making a distinction between trans women and biological women - is she? i'm in danger of coming across as transphobic but i laughed out loud at this line In one case, Forstater repeatedly misgendered a nonbinary person on Twitter. i mean, i'm sure that is an offensive thing to do to someone but i'm struggling not to feel like a daily mail reader here You're heavily into Jordan Peterson territory here, I would watch yourself or there'll be a public outcry culminating in the BBC sacking you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rayvin said: You're heavily into Jordan Peterson territory here, I would watch yourself or there'll be a public outcry culminating in the BBC sacking you I don’t hate women like he does. Just trans women, apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Trans women ARE women, you smelly pussy TERF cunt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Drier than Gandy’s sandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30249 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Tom said: Someone text Cath or write to Bridget We looking for feminists or lasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Seems to me to be a contrast between the starting point of saying sex and gender aren't binary or simple which I accept to the rather forceful "trans women ARE women". Why isn't "trans women" enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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