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  On 07/08/2024 at 07:48, Gemmill said:

I doubt any of that is accurate. 

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So do I. The orcs came out their burrows  on to the streets after being radicalised and loosely organised at some point but the current troubles came after three coincedental incidents; Harehills, Manchester Airport and the tragedy in Southport. 

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just been catching up a bit on this thread, some very good posts and a lot of understandable concern.

a glimmer of hope for me at least is further reading some of the court case reports, the amount of these cunts being charged with violent disorder and remanded, then breaking down in tears in court is fucking hilarious, the pathetic twats.

fast track some of these 'men' and women for that matter through the system and start dishing out 8-10 year sentences and the disorder will quickly fizzle out.

 

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Aye, the earliest sentencing dates I've seen so far are for early September, which seems a long way off given what's going on at the minute. 

 

Not sure why, if someone pleads guilty, a month needs to pass before they get told the consequences. 

 

Unless I've just missed some stuff that's happening sooner. 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 08:23, Gemmill said:

Aye, the earliest sentencing dates I've seen so far are for early September, which seems a long way off given what's going on at the minute. 

 

Not sure why, if someone pleads guilty, a month needs to pass before they get told the consequences. 

 

Unless I've just missed some stuff that's happening sooner. 

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Often need pre-sentencing probation reports to decide on the appropriate sentence.  I assume the probation service is likely to be under some strain soon. 

Also, Magistrates Courts can only sentence up to 6 months, so matters are remanded to the Crown Court.  Or they used to be in the olden days.

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  On 07/08/2024 at 07:56, PaddockLad said:


So do I. The orcs came out their burrows  on to the streets after being radicalised and loosely organised at some point but the current troubles came after three coincedental incidents; Harehills, Manchester Airport and the tragedy in Southport. 

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I don’t, however, think it’s too far fetched to suggest certain forces are primed to try and instigate this sort of thing when the opportunity arises. There’s some coordination but, as with everything, there isn’t sone overarching control. A lot of it is a chaotic chain of events. That doesn’t mean the usual suspects shouldn’t be held to account for fanning the flames of course. Particularly with how serious it’s become 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 09:34, Alex said:

I don’t, however, think it’s too far fetched to suggest certain forces are primed to try and instigate this sort of thing when the opportunity arises. There’s some coordination but, as with everything, there isn’t sone overarching control. A lot of it is a chaotic chain of events. That doesn’t mean the usual suspects shouldn’t be held to account for fanning the flames of course. Particularly with how serious it’s become 

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Aye I think there's definitely coordination once there's a trigger point. And I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that there's Russian involvement in it. 

 

I just think the idea that Sunak knew it was coming and called the election to avoid having to deal with it, is very far fetched. 

 

Peter Junkes needs to just pipe down with wacky theories like that. He's got a fairly significant audience and this is just another arm of the "just asking questions" brigade. 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 09:43, Craig said:

I'm seeing more and more segments of that LBC Farage had yesterday. It's an absolute car crash for him. 

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Even before the rioting a few on here predicted he’d be pig sick of being an MP before long. Due to the greater scrutiny it would bring to his views, his past, his financial dealings etc. He’s fine when he’s prepared about what he’s going to say but he gets very prickly the moment he’s challenged.

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  On 07/08/2024 at 09:42, Gemmill said:

 

Aye I think there's definitely coordination once there's a trigger point. And I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that there's Russian involvement in it. 

 

I just think the idea that Sunak knew it was coming and called the election to avoid having to deal with it, is very far fetched. 

 

Peter Junkes needs to just pipe down with wacky theories like that. He's got a fairly significant audience and this is just another arm of the "just asking questions" brigade. 

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Absolutely agree with this. It's been something that's been simmering under the surface waiting for a racial flash point where right-wing fascists think they have a legitimate platform to react. 

And now that it's been proven their basis for going on the offensive was nonsense, they're trying to turn it on the authorities and government for not letting them know in advance. What utter nonsense!! 

The undertone I take from Farage trying desperately to defend himself on LBC yesterday is that if it had turned out have been an asylum seeker / Muslim / both, the action taken by the far right would have been justified in his eyes. That's an appalling position for a sitting MP to take, let alone a party leader. 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 09:50, Alex said:

Even before the rioting a few on here predicted he’d be pig sick of being an MP before long. Due to the greater scrutiny it would bring to his views, his past, his financial dealings etc. He’s fine when he’s prepared about what he’s going to say but he gets very prickly the moment he’s challenged.

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Aye, it suits him to be be a political commentator with no consequences as to what comes out of his mouth. It's a shame parliament is in recess because I fully expect the rest of the house would have absolutely eviscerated him for his response to what has gone on this last week. 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 07:44, PaddockLad said:

Makes you think :cuppa:

 

 

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Agred with all the other responses about this but would add that it shows the right wing just can't accept democracy. Many of these wingnuts are demanding another GE. Hardly a seismic observation I know.

Also kudos for the term "broligarchs" to describe Musk and his tech peers. It's time these cunts were put into the same basket as Abromivic et al. Difference is, these cunts don't even try to hide they are subverting democracy. 

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  On 07/08/2024 at 08:23, Gemmill said:

Aye, the earliest sentencing dates I've seen so far are for early September, which seems a long way off given what's going on at the minute. 

 

Not sure why, if someone pleads guilty, a month needs to pass before they get told the consequences. 

 

Unless I've just missed some stuff that's happening sooner. 

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A bloke involved in the Southport riot just got 3 years. I'd say that was canny fast justice. 

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