Dr Gloom 20212 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i'm chuffed for the lad for breaking his duck and i hope he goes on to bang a few more in for us. but.... where is this electric pace i keep on hearing about? i thought he could run the 100m in 11 seconds. from what i've seen so far he's no slouch but he's certainly not in the bellamy league. what's the craic? am i wrong - is he really that fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i'm chuffed for the lad for breaking his duck and i hope he goes on to bang a few more in for us. but.... where is this electric pace i keep on hearing about? i thought he could run the 100m in 11 seconds. from what i've seen so far he's no slouch but he's certainly not in the bellamy league. what's the craic? am i wrong - is he really that fast? No he's not really that fast, but seems quite hard to shrug off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pertoon 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 A bit better but have to agree not the pace we were led to believe as yet. Still perhaps he has to warm up. Its certainly better than the rigger mortis he was sufferinhg from against Villa and Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 5113 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I still dont think defenders will catch him if he gets away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I think there have been glimpses of it so far, one that springs to mind for me was in the Tahlin game where he overtook and rounded the left back to win the ball back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 It's 18 seconds, not 11 seconds for the 100m apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 5113 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 It's 18 seconds, not 11 seconds for the 100m apparently. I8 seconds? Thats gash isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 It's 18 seconds, not 11 seconds for the 100m apparently. I8 seconds? Thats gash isnt it? The age thing man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I think there have been glimpses of it so far, one that springs to mind for me was in the Tahlin game where he overtook and rounded the left back to win the ball back. Aye, I remember that, against a weak side; think he'll show a lot more when he's used to the style of the Premiership. Speaking of pace, I thought Bellamy looked like he'd lost a yard of pace against Chelsea on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPTOON 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Be interesting to see if Martins could operate as a lone striker if needs be. Personally i'd preffer two but the need may arise i.e. Chelski away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebellious 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I don`t think many have given him the room behind yet to use it. Also he isn`t 100% fit yet. Maybe he can run like shit off a shovel but maybe he also knows its best not to for the sake of it, risking hammys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 When his fitness is tops he will no doubt succumb to the newcastle virus, quick injury and hamstring maybe..... but i hope when he has had a sustained run in the side, we will finally see the man he is supposed to be..... (hes great on FM06 35 goals in 25) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3285 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think there have been glimpses of it so far, one that springs to mind for me was in the Tahlin game where he overtook and rounded the left back to win the ball back. Aye, I remember that, against a weak side; think he'll show a lot more when he's used to the style of the Premiership. Speaking of pace, I thought Bellamy looked like he'd lost a yard of pace against Chelsea on Sunday. Am I the only person absolutely delighting in Liverpools misery? Saying that they will now hump us this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35873 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 If we beat Liverpool by 4 clear goals tomorrow night we'll go 5th btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 i'm chuffed for the lad for breaking his duck and i hope he goes on to bang a few more in for us. but.... where is this electric pace i keep on hearing about? i thought he could run the 100m in 11 seconds. from what i've seen so far he's no slouch but he's certainly not in the bellamy league. what's the craic? am i wrong - is he really that fast? From what I've seen I would say he is quicker than Bellamy without the ball, but significantly slower than Bellamy with the ball. I don't think Bellamy would have got to the ball against Talinn that lead to the goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Given the pace of the Italian game, I can imagine he looked like shit off a stainless steel shovel over there-but would only look average pace over here. Our games played at far too high a tempo tbh, to the detriment of technical ability. Which is why we are always ultimately fucking gash at international level, where skill will nearly always win out over athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think there have been glimpses of it so far, one that springs to mind for me was in the Tahlin game where he overtook and rounded the left back to win the ball back. Aye, I remember that, against a weak side; think he'll show a lot more when he's used to the style of the Premiership. Speaking of pace, I thought Bellamy looked like he'd lost a yard of pace against Chelsea on Sunday. Am I the only person absolutely delighting in Liverpools misery? Saying that they will now hump us this week. No and yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 For all their quality strikers (which they are) Liverpool just seem unable to score. Then along come NUFC to Anfield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8966 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 For all their quality strikers (which they are) Liverpool just seem unable to score. Then along come NUFC to Anfield... That is what I fear. I think with Kuijt it was just down to bad luck so far, he really looked a good signing for them so far. There were also few signs from him and Bellamy in the game against PSV to form a good partnership. I hope this comes after tomorrows game where hopefully Crouch and Fowler will start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 For all their quality strikers (which they are) Liverpool just seem unable to score. Then along come NUFC to Anfield... That is what I fear. I think with Kuijt it was just down to bad luck so far, he really looked a good signing for them so far. There were also few signs from him and Bellamy in the game against PSV to form a good partnership. I hope this comes after tomorrows game where hopefully Crouch and Fowler will start... Would that be the same Peter Crouch who's set to break all England International goalscoring records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 He only scores against shit teams. Whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8966 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 For all their quality strikers (which they are) Liverpool just seem unable to score. Then along come NUFC to Anfield... That is what I fear. I think with Kuijt it was just down to bad luck so far, he really looked a good signing for them so far. There were also few signs from him and Bellamy in the game against PSV to form a good partnership. I hope this comes after tomorrows game where hopefully Crouch and Fowler will start... Would that be the same Peter Crouch who's set to break all England International goalscoring records. Rather him than the B-word or the man Roeder likes to watch tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 (edited) Given the pace of the Italian game, I can imagine he looked like shit off a stainless steel shovel over there-but would only look average pace over here. Not sure I quite subscribe to that logic. Edited September 19, 2006 by Patrokles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Given the pace of the Italian game, I can imagine he looked like shit off a stainless steel shovel over there-but would only look average pace over here. Our games played at far too high a tempo tbh, to the detriment of technical ability. Which is why we are always ultimately fucking gash at international level, where skill will nearly always win out over athleticism. Not sure I quite subscribe to that logic. Agree with the second bit but not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8966 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Given the pace of the Italian game, I can imagine he looked like shit off a stainless steel shovel over there-but would only look average pace over here. Our games played at far too high a tempo tbh, to the detriment of technical ability. Which is why we are always ultimately fucking gash at international level, where skill will nearly always win out over athleticism. Not sure I quite subscribe to that logic. Agree with the second bit but not the first. Seconded. But I think the difference between defending in Italy and England is that it is here far more physical. In Italy players can run with the ball and deep positioned and use their pace to get past them. In England players normally don't even get time to control the ball without being under pressure. That is why Martins looked horrible in his first to games. He more or less got man-marked by Mellberg and Knight who didn't even give him a iota of space to break free and as soon as he got the ball were pushing him around. Only if Martins is getting used to this and being able to shake off defenders he will be able to become a hit in the Premierleague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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