All Activity

The problem to a degree is October 7th has become something akin to the 'start of history' on this issue now, whereas I would argue Nakba was the start. 700,000 Arabs kicked out of their homes and driven out of regions of Palestine that they lived in. 15k dead. Everything that has followed has been in response to that - Hamas are monsters, but they're monsters born out of a hatred that I can understand - not justify, but understand. If my family, my community, had been purged in the way that Palestinians were - driven from their homes and ethnically cleansed - I would also likely be very hateful. That says nothing about Israel's right to exist, but simply looks at the consequences of their actions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba Since Nakba there have been 140,000 Palestinians killed by Israel. I've seen reports of small children being shot in their mother's arms by the IDF, little girls climbing over rubble and being shot twice (double tap to make sure), 10 year olds being taken out by snipers. You do not need religion to make people hate in this situation. You just don't. The hate is automatic in response to the sorts of things the IDF have been perpetrating for decades. And to be really, really clear - if our children and families were suffering random executions, poisoned water supplies, forcible theft of property and so on.. we'd hate them too. Whoever that external force was, we'd hate them. That's why I view Hamas differently - because they're the product of that situation.

If you were absolutely convinced that the annihilation of Israel would guarantee you an infinite life in paradise, would it not be rational to do this? We've had countless examples of jihadist suicide terrorists giving up their lives for this exact motivation. The prospect of a nuclear Iran is not one that gives me much comfort. I don't understand why you don't get they have a completely different mindset. And no, they haven't achieved this - yet - due to a combination of many external pressures. But they are in contravention of treaties and have a large stock pile of uranium enriched far beyond what is useful for civilian use. Which has gone missing BTW. Comparisons with Iraq are bogus, this forum is old enough to record that most this board, me included, knew the WMD claims the were false (as did the inspectors of the time). Really the US had to completely destroy their nuclear programme. If reports are true they have only caused a minor set back, i think the problem is much worse as inspectors will not be returning.

where the fuck's my invite???

get around CT's gaff for a Friday night bong session on the garden sofa

You had to go into the basement of your mind palace to dig that clue out, huh?

I know nobody asked, but just want to put my cards on the table, I was zen as fuck.

I think we will get a player or two in before we shift anyone then again sign then shift.

i just watched it. don't know much about the channel beyond what you posted but i can see why renton is freaking out. syed makes a persuasive case

It might be the teams were buying from though. Bruno, Trips, Botman, Isak all came from clubs that the likes of Ornstein aren't plugged into. Trying to buy from other PL clubs turns up the noise.

Ah sorry, the way I read your post was as speculation / pure made up nonsense about no mark players at no mark clubs.

Bids weren't publicly being turned down via David Ornstein mate. That conspicuously wasn't happening..

Unfortunately there's been some monumental bed wetting! A lot of it was lost to database restores but it happened.

I may be massively missing the point (of there is one) but I assumed SR6 = six in a row rather than an actual postcode

All of that was still happening when Staveley was here. All of the rumour and shit. Nowt has changed there.

I refuse to believe anyone on here was shitting themselves that we hadn't signed anyone at the beginning of June.

Is that actually signing a player? Current status of Hot Mitch Summer:

Is all this "Newcastle have had a 25 billion rupee bid for Egil Stardust turned down by the player's current club Ulaan Bator Bastards" a direct symptom/consequence of the departure of Staveley and her sub? It sure as fuck feels like it. This isn't a plea for their return. But it wasn't fuckin like this under them. Maybe it's the prospective selling clubs and the players' no doubt cunty agents being well, cunts but the difference is night and day

HOT MITCH SUMMER STAGE TWO COMING SOON

yeah, i dunno if they'd be batshit enough to acquire a nuke, let alone launch one preemptively. not sure i agree with renton on that one, though nor would i want iran to get its hand on a nuke to test his theory re: hamas, i dunno if i'd be as charitable to describe them as cornered animal, as if they don't bear some responsibility for Israel's retaliatory strikes. i hate hamas every bit as much as i hate netanyahu. my position is this: there is zero justification for what netanyahu has done to gaza. none whatsoever. it pains me to say this as a pro-israeli, but it is ethnic cleansing. netanyahu and his cronies should stand trial for war crimes. the only longterm outcome for the next generation of israelis is more fear, insecurity and death. you can try and destroy then annex gaza but this isn't going away. his actions turned israel into a pariah state while recruiting the next generation of hamas terrorists. that's all it's achieved - along with the slaughter of thousands of innocent civilians. however, hamas - and by extension iran - knew exactly what they were doing when they launched the october 7 attacks. they knew the israeli response would be brutal. the truth is khameni/netanyahu and hamas all wanted the conflict. both netanyahu and hamas need it to cling to power, which is all they care about - neither side care about the people they represent.

My assessment of Hamas was about as grim as I could make it, so I'm not sure what in there felt charitable about it. Iran I'm not saying are blameless actors in this, they should just make peace with the political reality of the situation of Israel existing whether they consider it to be fair or not - but regardless I do not see any evidence at all in how they act that they would pre-emptively launch a nuclear missile that would guarantee their own annihilation at the same time. Nothing about how they have conducted any of this suggests that would be true.

the west absolutely is responsible for khameni's grip on iran. it's the classic US-led, western imperialism playbook: get involved in a foreign conflict by arming a rebel group in a bid to access natural resources, before going to war with whatever regime emerges from the mess created by those we armed in the first place. genius

your assessment of hamas and iran is rather forgiving. hamas is a terrorist group committed to the destruction of the state of israel and are supported by iran, which also wants to wipe the "zionist entity" from the map. iran also played a significant hand encouraging hamas to launch the october 7 attacks which helped give netanyahu the political capital needed to start all of this. remember iran did so in a bid to upend the normalisation of Israel-Saudi relations and further destabilise the region, so they achieved that goal. iran has also been engaged in proxy wars in the region for decades. i deplore what nethanyahu and trump are doing now also, but let's call a spade a spade.

Am just not going to agree with you or Rayvin here. Yes, western imperialism has played a role in making the whole situation worse, but religious and sectarian wars long predate British imperialism. Some wars are motivated by resources, others by ideologies with religion a subset of that. And people who are fundamentalists in that regard will not think like you or I, that much is obvious. Self flagellate and blame the West all you want, the root cause will remain. Jews hate Arabs/persians and vice versa primarily because of their religion. From the right wing nut cases of Netanyahu's cabinet to the Ayatollahs in Iran, it is these people who seized power (yes, the west had a huge role in that). And there will never be peace as long as they are in power. But the world is increasingly rejecting enlightened thinking and turning to the easy answers offered by religion. We're fucked because of a sky fairy.

Jose Enrique is in the top 50.