Rayvin

What the fuck is going on anymore man. I know we've purged most of the Tories from this board already but it's a shame in this instance as I'd really like one of them to tell me if this is what they think good governance looks like.

If he can play wide right I'd take that solution, sounds perfect.

Good luck Renton - glad you're well enough to be out of hospital at least.

Agreed, especially after their victory over (an admittedly hopeless and unimpressive) Manure. If we win this mind, I think I might actually start to get a bit carried away - but in truth I think it'll be a draw at best. I don't think we're quite there yet on taking wins off teams in good form on their home turf.

Done Not sure I'm helping but that amused me.

Good metaphor for for the club in general tbh. A vehicle for transporting an entity with no future and which moves people to tears.

I would have said Arsenal if all of this were happening last summer but it seems they might have turned a corner at last - which is good because I think we might be something of a bogey team for them, especially at SJP. They can't handle the noise IMO. Has to be Man United. Long overdue as well.

Well said from everyone but I second this in particular. One day at a time and just keep going with it.

What is Gordon's position exactly? What is he meant to do well? To me, last time we played them, he looked like a squirrel on crack. Not sure how that translates into our team, though I guess it could be useful in the press.

Hope's argument there seems to be that Bruno can play better than he did, and maybe he can, but is that the metric? So if you stuck me in there and I played the game of my life but barely hitting a 0.5/10 by any normal footballing standard, he'd give me a 9? Whether he had his best game or not, Bruno ties the whole team together.

Fair - I'm not so much saying they should be replaced as observing based on who we're linked with, what the thinking might be. Agree Willock was solid enough. I mean tbh I thought Almiron - frustrating as he was - was decent too. I just can't think who else they'd be looking to improve on beyond those two.

We seem less interested in an out and out forward as someone who can join midfield to attack, which suggests keeping the faith in Wilson and Wood for another season - fair enough too given that even with them not in the equation, the team still has goals in it. So we're looking to replace Willock and Almiron, presumably, if anyone. I agree with the defensive points incidentally, as much as I'm still struggling to get used to the idea of Newcastle team that can defend. Rafa eased us into that a bit I think Howe's approach might be even better than his was (throughout the team at least).

You've redeemed yourself somewhat with this, good analysis

I wasn't going to even mention it until your comment in this thread fwiw Still, nice to see I'm on the same page as the English Diego

Wilson is a fucking superb striker. He gets injured a fair bit which I think is the only reason he's not considered to be as good as he is, but he's got such an eye for goal and some incredible technique. I don't know how we ended up with him from the Ashley era but it was a real blessing that we did.

Surely there's no way they actually manage to get the daft bellend back into office though - it would be devastating for the party. Although I guess we should be worried about how far gone some of these people seem to be, that they think this is the answer.

Yeah I don't know if that's them underestimating us, or them underestimating the league, but you genuinely get the impression they thought they were shit hot coming into this season

Aye and we're better off saving the money to spend later on better players once we've made a bit of progress - which is why, presumably, they're so determined to find value at the moment. I really don't think we should be worried - we have a good team, we were never going to be assaulting the top spots this season no matter who we brought in, and we're looking hungry and ambitious. And growing the right way, I might add. Lots to be positive about, just need to enjoy the journey.

It was an attempt to close off a line of conversation that I think has gone on a bit too much for a space in which you don't know what everyone's experiences are, but thanks for that Dave. Along with almost word for word plagiarising my Man Utd argument in the Other Games thread from literally the page before, I can see you're on top form today

I really hope we have no victims of child abuse on here...

This refusal to accept that their era of dominance has ended is what, IMO, keeps this slow motion car crash going. They need to give it up and settle to their current natural level, before they can move forward again. Trying to reinvent themselves while retaining the champions league slots was always going to be a fool's errand. Their entire strategy is short termist and therefore is continuously exposed. If they had just accepted the order of things a season or two after Ferguson left, drifted down to midtable and started putting the foundations down for a new team and dynasty, they'd quite possibly be back threatening at the top by now. Instead they've milked their past successes to death like an aging hollywood actor and spammed money around as if they were Real Madrid, with those millions achieving incredibly poor value against how far money from other clubs goes, but just about keeping them hanging on. Sit down, take the medicine, spend a few years in midtable. Or continue to be a rolling spectacle of deluded wannabes, clinging on by the fingernails to European slots and relevance, but with no identity, plan or soul. It was funny for a long time but they're increasingly reminding me of the sort of people who harp on about the glory days of the British empire now. It's over, it's done, try to actually build something and move forward for fucks sake. This is just sad now. EDIT: To clarify mind, I'd be more than happy for them to drift into total obscurity and for that to just be the end of it. No loss whatsoever iyam. They're heading that way no matter what though, and frankly I'd prefer it if they'd just get the fuck out of our way.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/official-premier-league-matchday-thread-1-newcastle-vs-forest-6-8-22-1500h.50574/page-10 This is the page the offending post is on but honestly I'd start from the beginning.

Exactly! Tbf to them they actually choked it down pretty well afterwards, but the pre-match baseless bravado was a sight to behold.

I mean look at this unmitigated shit - one of the most delusional posts I've ever seen, it would be eyebrow raising on RTG ffs. Bruno equalled by some wanker I've never heard of called O'Brien, apparently. This is pre-game mind, I'd imagine reality kicks the door down at some point: Goalies: 1 Pope v Henderson: not a lot to choose between them; both in contention for an England place... honours even: PAR Defenders: 2 Trippier v Williams: Trippier immensley experienced at this level, and a full England international, but at 31 are his best years behind him? Williams, young rookie, full Wales international with the best years yet to come. Overall honours even: PAR. 3 Targett V Toffolo: both have reprsented England at juniour levels, both aged 26... honours even: PAR 4 Botman v Worrall: Botman is the rookie in comparison to Joe. I think given the formal announcement of Club Captaincy, Joe shades it : Forest 1 under Par after 4. 5 Schar v Niakhate: Close one to call, with Schar having the benefit of 89 games for NUFC in the Prem under his belt. Niakhate is vastly experienced in the Budesliga, but as yet unblooded in the Prem. Has show a lot of class in the friendlies. I think his being 4 years younger at 26 will shade it for Moussa: Forest another 1 under Par... 2 under after 5! 6 Joelinton v McKenna: not a perfect match-out this one, but best I could do! I think Joelinton shades it over McKenna. Newcastle 1 under Par. Forest 1 under after 6. Midfield: 7 St-Maximan v Johnson: both quick, and with an eye for goal, and both can be match-winners on their day. St Maximan probably shades it over Bren because of his experience. Another 1 under for Newcastle. Back to Par after 7. 8 Bruno v O'Brien: Brazillian technical brilliance against English guts and no little skill; honours even: PAR after 8. 9 Anderson v Colback: Ginger Jack will be out to prove something... forget comparative skills here. Forest 1 under Par... 1 Under Par after 9 10 Almiron v Lingard: I've seen Almiron weave magic in some games, and be subbed off as totally ineffective in others; Lingard will be up for this game to prove Talk Spunk and Danny Mills know sweet FA... Forest 1 under; 2 under after 10. Strikers: Wilson v Surridge (or Awoniyi): Wilson is a cracking player: big lad who is good with both feet and his head, plus he has pace and experience at this level. Neither Surridge nor Awoniyi h

Have just discovered Forest's matchday thread on their forum - first page (to be read in the voice of a whiny 6 year old) "we're an unknown quantity, people are going to be surprised by how high up the pitch we play, we'll beat these we owe them for 1974 (???). Doubt I need pornhub tonight, the schadenfraude should do for me.