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Everything posted by Rayvin
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Possibly so. Also sort of makes Trump look good I guess. Maybe it really is that simple.
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It's a weird one though given that they're unlikely to have done any real damage to Iran's nuclear program, and that Israel was calling for regime change and Khamenei's death. What was the point in any of it?
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Aye but on this occasion he might actually be about to end this without further drama, so I'm all for it.
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You see what you want to see, I'm not here to persuade you. I'm just explaining why they did it. As for the Tesla thing, both were political acts of criminal damage. I could see the UK calling this sabotage, but not terrorism. Terrorism is a fucking stupid thing to call it - but it does give the government the largest number of options to silence people.
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I'm struggling to handle all the back and forth on this Genuinely will be relieved when July 1st hits.
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I'm aware of the Israeli casualties, I resent the entire situation for civilians on both sides - consequently I watch the damage on both sides. I just mean Israel have announced they've knocked out all 99% of all long range missiles within the last day or so, meaning they should be approaching some semblance of safety. More importantly Trump has decided to overlook Iran's counterattack and is walking towards peace - so it seems DJT is the great peacemaker of our time, a shining beacon of Western civilisation's values as he disarms a rogue state of religious fanatics with aspirations of genocide of their nuclear weapons, seemingly calming their fanaticism at the same time. By the metric we're judging this situation on, it's a huge win for him.
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We're flying surveillance to support Israeli bombardment - hence hitting the RAF. No one voted for it, but we're doing it. https://www.declassifieduk.org/britain-sent-over-500-spy-flights-to-gaza/ I mean I don't actually agree with it either for what it's worth but if this is terrorism then so is destroying Tesla - seems Starmer agrees with Trump.
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I really hope your family are going to be ok man - for what it's worth I don't think there's really any chance of serious casualties on the Israeli side, I was reading that the Iranian long range capabilities have been largely knocked out now - besides which they don't seem to be going for civilian targets. Hopefully everyone backs down since it looks like America achieved what they wanted. It's more the West I'm concerned about at this point, we've shown time and time again how untrustworthy and cynical we are - many lives in Trump's hands.
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Iran is indicating that it has returned fire with an equal number of missiles to the US attack they suffered, and that they chose targets out of the way of civilian areas, and indeed warned the bases of the strikes. Nice to see at least one of these nations acting with some restraint. Shame there aren't more adults in the room though - Trump will hit them either way.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/23/yvette-cooper-vows-ban-palestine-action-anti-terrorism-laws Palestine Action going to be a terrorist organisation now
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Tehran looks fairly developed to me tbh. I don't get the sense that Iran is a fundamentalist state at the citizen level. I mean I saw the pictures of it in the 50s before we fucked them over too, it looked fairly well developed. It should be the leading light of the whole region, it only isn't because of us. Netanyahu is in his 6th term as Prime Minister, so what does that say about Israel's electorate? Do we want to be allied with people who consistently vote for a war criminal? I just can't pretend this is all ok man, I just can't. I wouldn't be able to stay in Washington now anyway because of posts like this. They'd deport me.
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They're also led by someone with an active arrest warrant out from the ICC for crimes against humanity. Iran aren't.
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Is there any scenario where we get to July 1st and the club suddenly brings 2 or 3 signings over the line that have been set up quietly while waiting for the PSR deadline to pass, or do we think we'd have inevitably heard something before now.
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Other than when they had the audacity to try and break free from colonial era oil terms, I don't know what Iran have ever done to the UK. I'm fairly sure it's absolutely fuck all. The older I get, the more convinced I become that we're the true terror state in all this. Us and the Americans.
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"Naive" again. Man I hear that a lot on here, always makes me smile a bit given how things tend to go. Alright man, I surrender to your superior knowledge of the inner workings of the Iranian state and its motivations.
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If you honestly think Iran would nuke Israel and completely ensure its total annihilation in the process, I can't help you. I find the level of fear we all have about Islamic countries to be utterly insane given that we are the ones who have persecuted them up and down through history, for the past 200 years. I'd trust Iran with a nuke far more than Israel.
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I wonder how it even happens. You reckon that these people get into office, finally understand how everything works and then think to themselves that they're simply too small to upset that many applecarts all at once?
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I'd still fully support it. Not seen anything that makes me think the religious are more uniquely predisposed to widespread brutality and catastrophe than anyone else. Indeed money and oil seem to be stronger drivers.
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It is indeed, no doubts there. I'd fully support a nuclear armed Iran tbh, it's the only way they can ensure they aren't fucked with.
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I don't think that saves him from the accusation tbh. He's taking a stance because of his office, fine, I can understand it rationally, but his soul remains sold.
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Funny how often we get to call him that. Maybe the right are correct, maybe they really are all the same.
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Hard to know what will happen. Iran is going to "rediscover democracy" if it retaliates, so you could potentially argue that the US involvement may be the quickest path to an ending because its hard to see what they can actually do against the US. They can just be bombed into submission since they have no air cover. Trump will never put boots on the ground but he doesn't have to. Iran and the middle east should just accept that Israel can slaughter them whenever it wants and make peace with it tbh, I dont see what else they can do.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/netanyahu-son-wedding-comments-israel-backlash Netanyahu has now claimed in amongst the carnage that he is feeling a very real personal cost in all of this - his son had to postpone his wedding.
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Shows even more how much Staveley was running the show tbh. It's felt like we've been adrift in the boardroom since she left.
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But why not keep both and let Trafford bed in properly?