Rayvin
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That... is weird. So the House would choose Biden and the Senate would choose Pence?? I assumed the popular vote would come in at that point tbh.
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The American way. I can't believe how close this is mind, for all that Biden could make it look clear cut in the end by picking up all these swing states, that would mask how close to absolute tragedy we have come.
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It's actually possible apparently that they draw level. What happens then? Penalties?
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The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory. /Guardian
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Maybe so, but they don't look that safe to me based on this evidence.
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Aye this time around but last time I'm convinced Sanders would have won it. Too much well poisoning this time for any real progressive candidate to make inroads. Same as over here really.
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I think so. I know Renton finds it objectionable but I really, really believe that no matter the political stripe of a candidate, people are looking for vision. Biden and Hillary offered none of that. Biden 2020 would have lost to trump in 2016 too, I'm pretty certain of that. The only reason he'll win this (I really hope he wins this) is that people have been able to see how dangerous Trump actually is.
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There probably is an argument to say that avoiding cities dominating everything entirely is worth pursuing, but the extent to which the EC favours republicans is depressing. That said, on this occasion, I'm not sure it's really the issue - the votes (at least so far) look pretty much neck in neck. Can't blame this one on EC I don't think.
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It's an anachronism IMO. It gives weighting to rural states that their populations don't justify to ensure that the interests of farmers weren't overlooked back in the day when farming mattered more. It's the same shit that happens here really. The Tories get an 80 seat majority through the capture of rural, underpopulated constituencies.
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If it is a 'red mirage' it's a damn convincing one. I just looked at PA and trump is 600k ahead with only 2.5m votes left to count. I mean it's possible for sure but it's going to be a case of squeaking over the line rather than crashing through it. Wisconsin also not filling me with optimism, 94% votes counted and Trump 100k up. That's legitimately in "could go either way" territory. Agree that Trump is making all the noises to indicate defeat but this is nowhere near as convincing as it should have been.
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Arizona for Biden has to be the first genuinely positive sign that we are heading back to something positive here...?
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So he intends to go to the supreme court and stop votes being counted since he is currently ahead. Apparently he may be successful...
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This is grim. Trump is more or less declaring victory as we speak. It's going to be unpleasant IMO.
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I guess. Florida sounds promising based on some of the early murmuring. EDIT: Or not. This is going to be one of those nights.
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I don't think it's going to be as clear cut as I was hoping tbh. I suspect the US has that solid core of immovable voters who will always vote for right no matter what.
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Fair enough. I've been tempted but I just can't predict it really. It does feel like a Biden victory tbf.
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You and me both. But on the election..?
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Basis for this? I'm struggling to get any info at all.
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Biden campaign has expressed concern about turnout in Pennsylvania. This could just be to motivate people to get over the line of course but even so 😕
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It sounds to me like people are voting for "not Trump" more than they're voting for Biden. That would worry me normally but Trump is so repulsive that it might well be enough.
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I expect Biden to win. But if he doesn't, the centre is more fucking dead to me than it already is He is the walking personification of it.
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It has to end at some point though. I mean frankly, if Biden can't win this then I'm right back on the rad left train because Biden is everything I've been told that "the left" needs to be putting forward. He's a right winger in a left wing suit. He's "electable". He's old and he's white. He's centrist. He's everything I've been told we need, so he better fucking win this.
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I agree with you, I don't think Trump is going to win from here but honestly the thought that it could even get remotely close is such a deplorable fucking outcome that I don't think kicking him out is going to end this culture war.
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That sucks, best wishes for a speedy recovery mate.
