Rayvin

No I don't, I'm a FTB. Had two false starts in the past year and... well everything else is complicated by the fact that I've started jettisoning various parts of my life now anyway. I'm probably just going to buy a flat and have done with it.

QF fucking T.

Holy fuck, the stamp duty thing though... a policy that will actually help me. Damn.

Dunno mind, if he can get them organised I think they can cut down the conceded goals. Having said that, they seem to be ravaged by injuries so who knows. If they hit League 1, you'd expect them to come straight back up but... Rodwell on £60/week in League 1...

Aye but they are scoring. IMO they just need to sort their defence out and they'll be looking at a steady climb. Granted they're unlikely to be able to do this until January, but I just don't see them being relegated in the end.

Still don't think they'll go down tbh... I know the numbers aren't favourable but they're not that far adrift (4 points I think?) and there is plenty of the season left to go.

I fucking hate the Daily Mail.

Yep, no manner of horrifying track record there.

If the Chinese are behind it, I'm sure it'll be fine.

I actually think it sounds more positive than I was thinking it would be. There's no mention of a flat out refusal, just things to be worked on. Coupled with Sky reporting something about a relegation clause, it may just come down to technicalities. I dunno though, I'll say I've moved from 100% certain this will fail to 99.5% certain. This bit though: Ashley has been made aware that room for manoeuvre is fairly limited as Staveley’s bid is close to the maximum she is prepared to pay.

Actual development: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/21/mike-ashley-seeking-improvement-in-amanda-staveley-near-300-million-bid-newcastle-united-sale

You sad bunch of commies...

Wait, doesn't everyone?

You're such a twat.

Just FFS

Just to prove I'm not making it up. Reckon Gloom is using "a reporter reckons" here in the same way that the Daily Mail use "Sources say"

This guy. This guy gets it.

Aye, I think you're overestimating how much Ashley cares about what we think, Troops.

Squires on Coleman https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2017/nov/21/david-squires-chris-coleman-sunderland-wales-tony-pulis

Aye, explains why he's on here causing pointless arguments about things no one outside of the bidding process really understands or has any information on

Agreed, but Gloom gets these ideas in his head and I dunno...

Here's to another productive morning!

I dunno, was Gloom's original point. I'm mostly just arguing for the hell of it now. Although the values of the clubs weren't my point. It was more about the mentality and the ability to show strength in deal making.

In a world where she wants to buy Liverpool and can demonstrate that 'final offer' means 'final offer' without risking that deal?

The first point is what I said though, it makes no sense. Unless you have no intention of going higher. So my view is that the bid is so low, as to actually not even be particularly useful in a negotiating context. Especially since Ashley already knew that they valued the club around this figure as it was widely reported. If she legitimately doesn't intend to negotiate, then the take it or leave it makes sense. And given that the bid is almost pointlessly low (assuming Ashley behaves in his normal way) it is conceivable that this is as far as they're prepared to go. Unless creating a media stir helps them in some other way, as Gloom was suggesting.