Rayvin

Starting to feel like Evolution of Language 101 in here. Did we have a game yesterday, feels like a distant memory now...

For christ sake, man I have the utmost respect for your knowledge of the game, it far exceeds my own I am quite sure. I thought that would go without saying. I wasn't calling you less informed. I can see how you've read it that way but that's simply because I didn't make sufficient clarifications on my post. There are of course other groups of people who will enjoy talking about football at a technical level using these terms - you use these terms because you find them easier in the communication of abstract concepts to others - that's fine - but I imagine you'd understand these concepts without those terms too. Therefore, the language makes it easier to communicate the ideas outside of specialised groups more so than within them (it may well help within them, but only if everyone agrees on a shared meaning, and if it doesn't lead to 3 pages of back and forth ). It wasn't a holistic case spanning all demographics, it was simply a single point that was actually supposed to be supportive of your position.

Fuck me You wouldn't have believe we'd just won the away leg of our first semi final in years on the reading of this thread... I've never heard of a low block but if it helps Fish sleep at night, more power to him. Defining abstract concepts does tend to help people who are less informed though, so maybe for the veteran, seasoned fans of the game it's needless - but for the younger generation or more casual observers I can see it having some merit.

The pain of the jokes in this thread today

It's not even all of January They started that thread on Thursday ffs. They've managed 72 pages in 4 days the mad bastards.

14 shots and 6 on target vs Fulham's 4 shots and 0 on target. I know there's more to it than that but honestly if we could just find consistency in front of goal we'd be winning games far more easily than this. Great to get the win in the end though, never seen the like with that penalty mind

Get the fuck in!

Just to check, are you arguing with me and if so, on which point? Or is this agreement? I'm a bit confused now. The problem with these subjects is it's very difficult to have a straight conversation on it without having to repeatedly qualify everything being said to ensure people don't take things the wrong way. I did try to do this so I'm wary of potentially having failed and the need to clarify.

For someone with an anti-semitic agenda it is indeed potentially harmful to do so. For students of structural racism, it would be a relevant consideration. If what she's saying is factually true (and I don't know either) then we are left to make judgements as to her implied meaning - and as I said, I do understand why you've taken it the way you have, I can see that in full. I was just curious really if she was wrong on that single point.

I get that point, and I did reference that 'dog whistle' in my original post on it. No arguments from me on that.

I don't have the information to agree or disagree short of quickly scanning the UK metrics on income inequality across various ethnic groups and learning that asian households outperform black ones on that single metric - I'm asking you really, if we know that she's wrong or not.

But I mean, is she wrong about it? I get that she said it, and I agree with your interpretation of what is being said, but do we know if she's just made it up, or is it actually true?

Is this statement incorrect? Not challenging, just curious. To the extent that material dispossession is a factor of systemic racism, it is almost certainly the case that some groups will feel it more keenly than others - for instance, UK government statistics reveal that asian people outperform black people in terms of household income - there isn't a one size fits all take on structural racism. Having said that, the fact that she chose to bring up this point in isolation is rather telling, I am sure there would have been a number of other less dog whistley points she could have made.

You'd think he'd be able to afford a fucking chauffeur, frankly.

Still don't disagree, but of every time we've faced them since idk, 1996, I'm not sure we've ever been as strong relative to them as we are now. That's all I'm saying, it's not the match up that it once was.

True, and I agree with this, but it's not like the games against them that we're used to anymore. Typically we'd get them in the situation like this and we'd be clear underdogs with a mountain to climb. I don't think that mountain is quite so high now. I'm not even sure it is a mountain anymore, perhaps just a mound. Their team isn't better than ours, although we might be roughly comparable in the cold light of day - the only thing they've really got over us IMO is that they're used to winning when it counts.

Honestly it's not even a maturity thing, I just cannot be fucked typing out Man Utd with that fucking space between the words when my phone can just predictive "manure" into it and it's done.

This is true but I actually fancy us against Manure. City are the real problem.

I think Scoobos is spot on tbh, but it's broadly what a lot of us have been saying for some time. He is at best a slow motion version of the same car crash we're already buckled in for, if you take him at his word.

Fair play to Sheff Wed - agree with sentiments that we don't need this cup run anyway so not too broken up about it. It's embarassing and the players we used should still have been able to handle their opponents, but it's not like this is unchartered territory for us Onwards we go - might even shake off any complacency.

Tbf, good and sympathetic film makers probably set about to make a sympathetic film. The mackems made themselves the joke.

Happy New Year lads. All the best for the year ahead.

This has been absolutely glorious. The spectacular nature of this fuckwit's collapse at the hands of Greta Thunberg/Romanian Police has actually made knowing who he is worthwhile. What a cunt man.

He's the new thought leader for generations of young men, rejecting feminism and soft, beta male things like protecting the environment, respecting your partner and finding happiness outside of money. He is, and I cannot overstate this, a weapons grade cunt. Of the highest, highest level. Poisoning teenage boys with his shallow, pathetic version of masculinity. Previously some sort of MMA fighter, now - I kid you not - a public intellectual for those with the emotional intelligence of fleas. He only hit my radar a few weeks ago but I've gone and had a look and can definitely confirm he is a charlatan. A bellend amongst bellends. The literal blind leading the blind. But he's rich as fuck so he must know what he's talking about..!

Great first half where we were clinical and dangerous throughout, and a competent and professional second half. My lass was watching with me (a rare thing) and she kept asking why Leicester were passing to their keeper so much, that it was boring meanwhile I'm sitting there waxing lyrical to my dad (Everton fan) about how amazing our press is. We make other teams play badly, or within themselves. We are quite possibly the best in the league at it via this particular tactic. In fact fuck it, we are the best pressing team in the league.