Renton

Natch. I've avoided Facebook all my life and am not going to start now. I'll get a friend to flog this for me.

Pretty pissed off. Trying to sort out my Dad's affairs, and need to sell his mobility scooter. Put an ad up on Gum Tree, they removed it. Put it up again, again removed. In their T&Cs they say they will email the reason why. They didn't. I'm totally scoobied as to the reason. Managed to navigate the website and send a query off to them. Look at the reply the cheeky fucker emailed me back. The cunts. I want now to organise a toontastic boycott of Gum Tree, including @Christmas Tree , to bankrupt the bastards. Thanks for helping me out here. 👍 Oh, and if anyone wants to buy a second hand mobility scooter, PM me. Strangely enough I'm thinking of @Christmas Tree again here.

I thought that too when I watched it. I don't remember it being so hopeless then though, definitely we didn't have the spectre of climate change for instance. Or maybe it's just down to me changing my perceptions. Then again, was depression in children a thing then?

Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍

Agree but note: only6 hours daylight in mid-winter. And anticyclones at this time cause very cold temperatures. When planning anything you need to account for the worst case conditions if you want your system to be robust and, in this case, avoid black outs.

An area of high pressure which tends to block depressions (storms). A still mass of air basically, very common in winter. My Dad was a keen amateur meteorologist, had his own weather station, so I know a fair bit about the weather and climate. Not enough to be arsed to read scientific papers on it though.

Okay, I think we are talking cross purposes here, my point stems back to the OP by ewerk, about Sizewell C. To sum up my point: 1) We need continuous energy more than ever in the 21st century, to operate anything electrical including C/H. 2) It's not always windy, so wind generation alone is not the sole answer. 3) It's not always light, so solar alone can never be the sole answer. 4) Often it is neither windy nor light. For example winter at any time outside the 6 hour day time window during anticyclonic conditions. 5) The example made in point 4) also happens to be the time when it is coldest and we need the most domestic energy. So for this reason, what I am saying is we ALSO need a dependable source of energy that is not dependent on these factors that are outside of our control. That is why I think not proceeding with Sizewell C is a mistake. I also think cancelling HS2 and NPR are huge mistakes. We should be investing in carbon neutral infrastructure as much as possible, of all kinds.

Does solar work at night?

Probably the biggest issue. And without insulation heat exchange is pointless.

I completely agree we need to maximise renewables and energy should be state owned. I just don't think they can ever be the only answer. Maybe the government think they can and that is why Sizewell C is being scrapped. I'm a bit dubious about this though.

It's not though is it? It's the availability of the correct weather conditions, regardless of technology (for the main ones, wind and solar). Please explain to me why we don't need a back up source if it's not windy or sunny, as is often the case in winter when we most need power?

It's highly variable though dependent on the weather. We have no way of storing excess energy generation (yet). I don't think batteries are the answer personally as they have a serious environmental impact.

MF said we could solve the issue in 2 years, which is what I called cloud cuckoo land. I then gave an anecdote explaining we can't even reliably connect smart meters as an example. I actually doubt he was being serious about this, but whatever.

Law of diminishing returns, we've picked the low hanging fruit (wind power). You can't be solely reliant on this, it can only provide a proportion of your grid because it's often not windy. All I am saying is you also need a reliable source of energy that is always present at the flick of a switch. Nuclear fits the bill, as far as I am aware this has been our energy policy for a while.

Eh? You told me to read some "scientific papers" and suggested I got all my information from Google. That was the patronising bit. I'm disagreeing with both you and MF, spelling out my reasons. Show me where I am patronising.

Howay man, this is cloud cuckoo land stuff. It will take 100 years, we don't have the skills or capacity to do this in the timescale of an electoral cycle or even 3 cycles, which is part of the problem. As an example I had to have a smart meter fitted when I rennovated my house. Neither the gas or electric ones work, they won't connect to the infrastructure. So I have no module telling me what I am using and still have to send off readings manually. If you look online, you will see this is not an unusual case, it's actually pretty typical. Renewables are definitely the long-term answer but we also need nuclear. Scrapping SIzewell C will lead to issues down the line imo, serious ones.

There's 60 million of us though, that's a fuck ton of energy needed.

Stmpathies with your renters, must be a stressful situation. Try not to be so patronising maybe. You're talking about hypotheticals here. Wind power will be the dominant renewable in our life times, and it isn't always windy. We will need baseload generation for the foreseeable. England will anyway, an independent Scotland would probably be okay as you have hydro too.

There is no way of guranteeing the wind and/or sunlight over the UK, especially in winter. Get a blocking anticyclone in winter (which are quite common), you get freezing temperatures with no wind which can last days or even weeks. I don't think I've ever heard anyone seriously suggest we don't need to guarantee a baseload, and for me nuclear is by far the preferred choice for that.

I thought a big issue with the nuclear projects was the tariffs we had to guarantee to the operators? Certainly that ws the case for Hinkley point. I would therefore assume that was less of an issue now with the insane cost of electricity generation from gas. But regardless, we know renewables can't provide the baseline energy so what the fuck will? "It takes ages to build". SO yeah, let's not bother then? Also inthat article Northern Power House rail has been scrapped (transpennine improvements). First we lost HS2 to prioritse NPR apparently, now that is scrapped too. Fucking lying tory cunts.

When I think about democracy I sometimes think of Brave New World by Huxley. I never got round to reading the book but saw an adaptation of it on the telly once, probably early 80s. When you give the Deltas and Epsilons the vote, they're going to be impressed with Johnson bull dosing a Get Brexit Done wall. In the adaptation I saw, Deltas were always really happy, reminds me of someone on here. Personally though being an alpha is more a curse than a blessing.

Best case scenario here (red line), we'll still not be back to where we were in 2020 by the end of 2025 in terms of GDP. Quite staggering really. I think in real terms, people will be worse of then than they were 15 (fucking FIFTEEN!) years earlier under Labour. And the predictions after 2025 are also dire. Honestly you've got to pray this us the end of this shithouse party once and for all. And if now is not the time to tackle our failing constitution I don't know when is. I'm looking at you, Starmer, you coward.

The blue bit on this graph is the Truss/Tory premium.