Renton

"Illiterate, worthless creature". Say what you like about the ruskies, but they're canny astute.

You just add your avatar instead, don't you?

Not knowingly. I know a lot of gay people, particularly lesbians, so never make an assumption about a persons sexuality (just as well as that could have led to some embarassing instances), but I do judge gender purely on appearance. What proportion of the population do you think this affects? It has got me thinking to when this became a "thing". Earliest mention I can think of was actually a plotline on Hollyoaks. Presumably there were/are a lot of supressed people in my generation. Back in the late 80s in Newcastle, it was just unheard of. There was one transvestite man, really butch with lip stick on wearing a dress and handbag, that almost had celebrity status as a result. Used to drink quite a bit in Luckys iirc, also Dog an Parrot, wonder if any of the older ones here remember him. Can only imagine the grief he got.

Well that's a good point. Which does beg the question, should we alter our behaviour to be more welcoming to diverse groups? Or is this a safe haven from the "real" world? And we may be 90% white, male, middle aged (save a few kids like yourself ) and football fans, but i doubt there is a racist, homophobe, or trangenderphobe (?) amongst us. Live and let live but let me use the language I understand. Also, I might add, I’ve been thinking I actually dislike the use of "they" as a gender neutral alternative as it implies plural and actually reduces the functional precision of the English language. So there's that.

Well this is an education for me. Still not sure I get it. I mean on thos board, we have a belta minge thread, we routinely call women split arses and each other cunts, we even have Monkey's Fist, but I'm not supposed to use gender specific vocabulary which is accurate in 99% of the time I use it and I'm sure offends (even slightly) almost nobody? Thing is, this might wind up Daily Mail readers but I think it actually probably alienates a lot of other people to an extent too, myself included. I don't see the need but I know how animated people get about it, so for that reason David, I'm out, you bald cunt.

She They was were actually really attractive... except.... of course she they didn't shave her their legs and they were twice as hairy as mine. As for her their pits.....

I think I mentioned once btw that one feminist I knew at University (so like 30 years ago) chastised for me for using the word history, insisting the subject was referred to as "person story". Is this becoming mainstream now?

I'm happy to call anyone whatever they want, no problem, But as ewerk points out, I don't get its use as a blanket term when its not really applicable, it is actually changing how we use the English language. Also just struggling to understand how people find words like her, him, she, his etc. offensive, seems somewhat ridiculous to me when there are clearly real issues with discrimination out there. I mean "She got a puncture" in reference to a woman is innapropriate now, really?

Why? What's the point in this gender neutral bollocks? I just don't get how any of this is offensive or necessary. I mean ffs, most languages assign "genders" to objects.

Although tbf Johnson witheld information on him which he has since said woould have changed his opinion on that matter. This guy is supposed to be fairly decent, which is why he has no place near Johnson.

Johnson fucks everyone he's in contact with, one way or another.

Chris Bryant was on straight after Dominic Raab on R5 this morning. When asked about Raab's comments, he jsust said every last one of them was a lie and Raab was a liar. Quite refreshing.

Naah, complicated economic models incorporating probabilistic sensitivity analysis, things like that. If you've got one error somewghere embedded in several dozen worksheets, it fucks everything and is almost impossible to find.

Excel is pretty rank as a programming tool like but it's fairly universal in my field. Error checking is a right ball ache, For the simple stuff you do, it's fine.

And doing yoda voices in his head.

On cue, it's Labour's fault.

So desperate not to fall into a tory trap they still are. Having said that I felt getting Johnson huffing and puffing about Labour being on the union's side on the rail strike came across as completely desperate from him, he was so transparent. Maybe it is best not to say anything, just let the tories beach themselves. I don't know.

Fully agree, been saying for months it's not Pert Gate that will bring them down but cost of living. But the latter fucks us all unfortunately.

In the same way Rwand is both a utopia for refugees and a deterrent for them?

This is all they've got now like. Instead of governing, they are in a constant state of electoneering with nothing but wedge issues they've invented to campaign on. Currently the rail strike, Rwanda, and NI protocol. I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard people say all politicians are the same or it doesn't matter who is in charge. It clearly does. This malignancy at the heart of government is destroying this country. Let's hope Gemmill is right and Johnson's time is nearly up.

ECJ??? Are these fuckers really this thick or is it deliberate?

He's also now the political editor of the New Statesman. Fair play to him. Edit, my favourite line:

The change in Marr since he left the BBC is remarkable. I think that tells its own story Gloom.

I'd forgotten about this. Love it.

Worth mentioning that withdrawing from the ECHR would be a breach of the Good Friday Agreement. Will they do that and become complete pariahs, including with the US?