Alex

I guess where Gloom is coming from here is a lot of the IDF are conscripted and some of them are members of his own family. Which is totally understandable of course

It’s a fucking stupid thing to say but they’re trying to make a point rather than anything else imo. It’s one thing inciting a group who are in a position to carry something out and a different matter when it’s a situation like this. I’m not saying you can say what you want without consequences but I feel like it’s not a particularly proportionate response by the media and politicians given the wider context and the obvious war crimes being committed with the tacit approval of ours and other governments

There was an incident a while back where a Palestinian lad the same age as my eldest was shot and killed. His family said he was gathering almonds and the Israeli government spokesperson said they were a terrorist throwing stones at cars on a busy road. Now even if you accept the latter version, they’re basically admitting they think it’s justifiable to kill kids for throwing stones. I know that’s just one drop in a sea of tragedies but how is it somehow worse in the eyes of government to criticise the IDF, however clumsily? Actually then talking about prosecuting them as well? I don’t see how it’s hate speech. I actually think conflating the IDF and its actions with all Jewish people, which is essentially what is being done with the reaction, is far worse. On top of which there will be more people happy to use it to bash the bbc than there will be people with genuine concerns about antisemitism.

They’ll be the same ones saying we should look after our own whilst kicking off about free school meals

A Herculean effort ☝️

Btw do you know when Robertson’s phased that out? 2001

Remember when Agassi used to wear denim shorts with built in cycling shorts underneath?

Boris Yeltsin, Arthur Askey, Mike Neville and Mikhail Gorbachev joining Wraith is quite the line up

Well that’s ruined the ‘Herculean effort’ post I was going to make about it.

That’s brilliant

It nails a lot of my feelings about Glastonbury like. And that’s having seen barely any of it this year. The point about Rod Stewart as well. I mean he was a parody of himself when I was a kid in the 80s. I do think he did some ok stuff about a decade before that but he’s that type of artist where I just cannot fathom anyone wanting to see live, ie a renowned vocalist whose voice is absolutely shot. It’s just embarrassing for all concerned. Then you have the BBC presenter cunts going full North Korea and insisting (I assume, as they did with Elton John) that it was a <insert superlative here> performance for the ages.

The initial signings took the club forward at a ridiculous rate. But they’ve also left us in the predicament we are in re: PSR. To just heap praise on Staveley doesn’t really look at the whole picture. Obviously PSR is designed to stymie us interlopers. And we’ve all got to give fanks to Mike for the lack of revenue streams which have also been a massive factor. I do think she was a good link between the footballing management side of things and the (real) ownership however. But I don’t think it was a particularly sustainable transfer policy. Unless you’d be happy to see some of our best players leave to go to the sides we’re trying to chase down

I wonder what she sees in him

Mid 90s Scottish IDM duo

Yeah but you could still theoretically demonstrate that more easily if you’re established, successful team I suppose. I.e. there’s no way we’d have been allowed to make a similar argument/have a similar valuation. I mean it’s all fucking bollocks anyway and it was just a way of letting Chelsea get out of their predicament.

And what would the team have been worth? They aren’t in the top flight and weren’t they newly promoted to the second tier at that time?

Was just about to post that the Madrid one is absolutely awful imo

None of that forrin muck

That thread is absolutely deranged

Still looks better than going to Glastonbury

Lalo Schifrin.

Nothing, I repeat nothing, attracts young footballing talent like a Victorian mid-terraced house

Schrodinger’s mackems. Where you’re simultaneously a ‘massive’ club with global recognition whilst being utterly obsessed with how you’re perceived in relation to your rivals (as per that thread) and are a stepping stone for promising youngsters