Alex

Aye, there's a few cartoon hoolies on there like. Probably still live with their Mams.

Which is funny because the town itself is pretty much a 50-50 split. They claim anything that's in the historical county of Durham though. I saw someone on there saying the Duke of Northumberland stole Gateshead pits from one of the Prince Bishops. Which, apart from being a bizarre thing to bring up in itself, is fairly ridiculous considering Durham City could barely be less like (or more removed from) Sunderland.

Moyes channelling Fred Dibnah there

There's definitely a desire for change amongst a large amount of people. If you take the example of the US Presidential race you have someone like Clinton, who whilst not particularly likeable is basically a mainstream politician. She has just about everyone in the media on her side as well as just about anyone of note who has made an endorsement (not just politicians) and she's up against a pretty loathsome individual with virtually nothing but rhetoric and the world's most elaborate combover and it's still, even at this stage, a relatively close contest with the polls seemingly narrowing by the day. I don't think he'll win but the fact it's not quite cut and dry shows how disillusioned many people are.

What I think he means, and I was about to post something similar, is that there were similar things said about Brexit shaking up the establishment. It certainly hasn't lead to the sort of the things some were predicting. The morning after you had Peter Hitchens (who I'm not a fan of but I think assesses things rather well quite often) suggested it was almost inevitable the Tories and Labour would each split into two parties for example. That's not really any closer than it ever was (in the case of the former at least). Or, to put it another way, simply voting against the establashment isn't a good thing if the alternative is worse. That's where the parallels lie. I do take Zizek's point though. And he comes across like a lot of us in that it's a very poor choice to have to make.

Leazesque I was right post there Also, I see tomorrow's top-of-the-table Northern League clash between North and South Shields is a record 2,000+ sell-out. Canny

Brilliant that like, the politicians lied about what people were voting for beforehand and now they claim to know exactly what people want out of brexit. He's a right snivelling little cunt of a man as well.

Well they would say that

Independence Day had the disadvantage of being shite in the first place though

In the 2nd tier

Loved this one too

You probably remember this one from back then, Chez:

Love a bit of Herbert

I'm not sure he would either tbh. I think he knows it would be a really hard job and that he'll get other offers come the summer (if not before)

Aye it's defintitely possible when you look at what they've done in recent years. And I totally get what you're saying about Short and what would be the best thing to do. I just think (especially given his record) a couple more losses in the next couple of games (at the most) and Short'll shit his pants and sack Moyes. It'll also have a lot to do with whose agents have been onto the club too. I would imagine that, were Allardyce willing to return, then Sunderland would have him back in a shot. That, followed by relegation, coupled with our going back the other way would be too funny

You need a 'Happy Face made this' watermark on these things, HF

We were a total basket case. I doubt his agent had much bother getting the clause inserted

Given that, even in the first year of parachute payments they'd be something like £60m worse off that last bit seems unlikely and also, I think, explains why they're continually prepared to gamble on sacking their manager to stay in the league. And they got compensation for Allardyce which probably went a long way to paying for Moyes. In terms of a long-term plan then biting the bullet and sticking with what they would make sense but when has logic ever been applied to clubs in the Premier League? The new money just adds to all that. We'll see, I suppose. I would fucking love him to stay like.

All of that hints at what he's capable of.

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Benitez certainly seemed to get a lot out of him.