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Oh no yet another evil scheme to rip people off !! The usual unadulterated tosh expected on here is all it is. Do the sums say 4000 away fans (ave) of which 75% will be season ticket holders or members already I would reckon, of the rest (1,000) probably half get tickets from mates who are St holders or members. That leaves 500 500 x £25 = £12,500 Great scheme that is BTW £12,500 (or even double it) wouldn't go near the cost of setting up and administering a scheme to "vet" none ST's or members (that ST/Members system presumably already exists).

Probably be like the radio stations I listen to for the NFL stuff, generally broadcast live until kick-off then locked to the licensed market. Hardy think there'll be a huge licencing issue for this one mind, so could broadcast through, mebe's, possibly or mebe's not.

I don't have "opinions", I am speaking facts, absolute facts, when I tell you the position the club was in when the last owners found it and where they left it. The fact, is that you are now wanting the owner to speculate on quality footballers, which is precisely what the old owners did for 15 years, and for which arseholes like you gave them flak for doing. This is how we got those league positions and appeared in europe regularly and the Champions League. It is my opinion that Mike Ashley will not do this, but having witnessed such owners before ie pre-1992, such owners are easy to spot by their actions, lies, selling of best players, and buying policies, and other things. After 4 years, I am to date very much correct in everything I have said almost since Ashley got his feet under his desk, and the clock is ticking for brainwashed fools like you who are living in a fantasy world and won't listen. If you find I'm condesending, then it is purely down to your own stupidity that I have to keep repeating myself. And that's the bit that won't sink in

Oh and by the way: O'Shea and Brown sold and off the wage bill and then all of a sudden...... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14081334.stm Wonder if Man U fans are bleating

Speaking of thick cunts, Hi !! You don't sell players to pay wages per se BUT transfer income is just income like any other and is used BY ALL CLUBS as such. It's NOT a small club approach, it's an EVERY FUCKING CLUB approach. (discounting Oligarchs and Arabs). What's your alternative???? Seriously?? Who the fuck do you think NUFC are ??? we are a vastly underachieving, unsuccesfull club and have been for over half a century. The Champions league appearances weren't the "norm" they were the blips and sadly we didn't sustain it and now the game has changed and it's all but unreachable. By doing what we are doing we actually do have an advantage due to our fan base, because our "prudent" approach is set within means greater than most other clubs.

Or put another way, slightly more than last years loss. Do you mean last season or our year in the championship? Last reported financial year (which was the championship year), financial year is all that matters.

Or put another way, slightly more than last years loss. don't tell us, you're waiting until September 1st. and as the progressive clubs celebrate their qualification for the Champions League, European competition, FA Cup Final or League Cup wins/appearances, supporters of Newcastle United laugh at them for getting it all wrong, proudly proclaiming glorious profit making on the back of the irrelevant relegation. Look at the figures for Spurs I posted (that you laughed at) have been doing exactly what we are doing now, but for years.

Or put another way, slightly more than last years loss.

Apart from the fact every single club on the planet does it to some extent. Transfer income is just club income like any other. I think its the implication that without selling, wages couldn't be met that is a bit unbelieveable as it would be reckless at best. I agree to a point, but it's all just cash in the pot from which the wages come. If your turnover is saturated you have to fund any expense from somewhere. It appears fairly obvious now, in light of the recent statements, that Ashley isn't intending to maintain his level of subsidy.

Apart from the fact every single club on the planet does it to some extent. Transfer income is just club income like any other. Do they? I've literally never heard that until NUFC have been using it as an excuse. Find me some examples? It is analysed seperately but it is income just like the profit from buying a scarf from the club shop is:

Apart from the fact every single club on the planet does it to some extent. Transfer income is just club income like any other.

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England! More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts. Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs? Their accent is hugely different from American, especially in the pronunciation of "about" for example, very wierd and noticable "bout" sound. That said, when I was in Wisconsin someone asked, based upon my slight Geordie accent, if I was from Alabama On the insular thing, at a street market in Chicago someone stated because of my accent I was obviously "not from these parts", when I replied I was from the UK he said he had a friend in Birmingham called John Allan and did I know him !!!

NUFC and the Green Bay Packers my two teams, use it everywhere, and have done forever really, except on Packer boards where I am simply plain ole UK

Yeah I agree with that, we're definitely shopping for bargains. I guess that's OK if they turn out to improve the team; the risk is being stuck with an Alan Smith type for 4 years who'll just sit tight and take the money (was it Winston Bogarde for Chelsea a few years back who wouldn't move on even though he was rotting in the reserves?). The worry is they're cheap for a reason..... If that reason is a contractual one it's less of a worry, given the players hold all the cards these days. But if they're cheap a'la Perch then I agree.

He can hoof it, you mean

Friendly, lost 3-2 to Petrolul Ploiesti away, whoever they are. Closest league game lost 3-1 at home to Burnley.

When I was a nipper and dragged to town with my mam, I got Wynn Davies autograph in Mark Toneys in the Haymarket, he was sat in and was having a cup of tea with Ollie Burton, who I blanked, didn't twig till later it was Burton as I was in awe of the mighty Wynn. In a home game against Wrexham, abandoned at half time due to monsoon and hurricane like conditions, I saw a goal kick go out for a corner (that just underlined that the game was doomed). It should never have kicked off really, I have also never been so wet through in my life, three layers on and even me shreddies needed wringing out.

http://www.skunkers.net//forum.php click on "Forum" rather than "home". There is a fault with the setting for "home", it says you are banned when you are not. It's not a fault, everyone gets that page, its Windaz's idea of an idiot test, it appears some people have failed it

Ashley loving apologist tbh I'd agree the last two seasons have been enjoyable, I absolutely love last season, was exciting most weeks, and if you'd have said we'd score 8 more home goals than Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City, I'd have been ringing St Nicks. I've seen bad times too, Jim Smith's days were the worst in some regards cos even when we were winning we were fuckin pish, got 10 times worse the 1991 season where we had fuck all pace at all, and he still signed old dafties. So aye we've all seen worse days than this, but HE (Ashley), or HIM (the specky cockney casino manager cunt) deserve ABSOLUTELY no credit for this, a monkey could've managed to got Newcastle in to a mid table position in my view, so while I agree it's been ok lets not forget who got us in to this mess and lied repeatedly to us I haven't, it's what me and Leazes bicker about. I'm in a good mood so I'll let you off this time

Ashley loving apologist tbh I'd agree the last two seasons have been enjoyable, I absolutely love last season, was exciting most weeks, and if you'd have said we'd score 8 more home goals than Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City, I'd have been ringing St Nicks. I've seen bad times too, Jim Smith's days were the worst in some regards cos even when we were winning we were fuckin pish, got 10 times worse the 1991 season where we had fuck all pace at all, and he still signed old dafties. So aye we've all seen worse days than this, but HE (Ashley), or HIM (the specky cockney casino manager cunt) deserve ABSOLUTELY no credit for this, a monkey could've managed to got Newcastle in to a mid table position in my view, so while I agree it's been ok lets not forget who got us in to this mess and lied repeatedly to us I haven't, it's what me and Leazes bicker about.

They never have to any extent, if they do now, it'll be a first for them.

considered projector route a while back, but aren't (werent?) the bulbs limited and expensive ? what projector is it you've got on The Enterprise like Spok ? Projector is old-ish (5 years) now, InFocus IN78, replacement lamp is about £300. Given it gets hammered a good 7-8 hours a day, much more at weekends, I still get about 18 months out of a lamp (It's only now got it's second replacement in). Even works well in quite bright light, I bought a heavy dark blind for the window but have never bothered putting it up, the curtains (and they are light ones) are fine. Love that room

Ashley loving apologist tbh explain please. is Ashley worse than Lord Westwood, or the other fuckers that raped my club come on cunt explain your little poncey remark You said you are "Happy with the club at the moment", enough to get tarred and feathered by some on here. Take note of "wink" smiley and get a sense of humour Oh and having now read the rest of the thread, don't post pissed :-)

HD Projector, screen, good AV amp, good speakers. beats a TV everytime. Get rid of the dining room and make it a cinema room, even the Mrs says "best thing we ever did".

Mismanagement of money. The sale of Andy Carroll for 35M is only a good sale if we end up with a better team as a result. We've been lied to over and over again, about money, player retention, you name it. This is just another one of the lies, another con that the gullible will seemingly gulp down eagerly. If the core of the supporters stopped acting like mugs then they'd have to stop treating them like mugs. in a nutshell. Instead of going round in circles and instead of the football accountants trotting out all the excuses, that is the bottom line, and the record of Mike Ashley so far suggests that this is most definitely NOT going to happen and this money is NOT going to be re-invested in purchases by his appointed manager. When Man U sold Ronaldo did Fergie go on a 60/70 mil spending spree?? I doubt the 35mil will be used solely on transfers but I will be disappointed if we don't sign more quality players, its not all down to fees if we do smart business. Look at Hernandez, 7 mil?? There must be more out there like him That's the bit I can't comprehend that people don't get. Apart from City and Chelsea none of the "succesfull" clubs spend what they don't have. Man U have debts of £478m They've spent over £44m this year (so far), they're after a keeper next. http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?te...mTabs=transfers Incomparable and you know it. That is debt from their leveraged purchase by the Glazers, which is also more than covered by their profits, they do not go into debt to buy players. and our "debts" in 2007 were mostly down to a stadium expansion ? Until the financial whizz kid Ashley set about his "streamlining" etc and increased them, after paying them all off of course, according to Dekka, then he hadn't paid them off, then he had, then he hadn't ...... then he sold our best striker for a whopping fee to a team we used to compete with and conned everybody like you into making the money disappear. "mostly" down to the stadium expansion, Oh wait a minute, except for the £30Mill bank debt probably used to make up the gap to allow dividends and nice salaries for the whole family (oh and the warehouse and offices in Gibraltar, hotbed of football that it is and paying Kenny to use offices in SJP) plus £27Mill outstanding transfer fees, and £25Mill of Northern Rock money spent before we had it. So not "mostly" after all. Over and above the sale price £52 Million was their take (well the amounts we know about anyway) pitty that wasn't re-invested eh? (like in the summer we could/should have pressed on but got Bowyer on a free instead, and then it all went wrong). I don't give a fuck about a pittance on a warehouse, or an office in Gib, this is where people like you and your hatred consumes all your logical thought, it comes between you and your wits man. They backed their managers and gave me Champions League football, top footballers and put the club at the top table competing where they should be doing. A warehouse and an office in Gib is fuck all. As for the "Bowyer summer", we spent 9m on Woodgate in the January, in advance of the summer. Forward planning ? I would have thought the last person who would bring up something like that would be you [but sadly some of the morons on skunkers do the same thing] you preach one minute about "controlled spending", then you - like now - slate them for NOT spending money [in the "Bowyer summer"] that they don't have ie because they had used up the transfer budgets buying Woodgate, ahead of any rivals, a smart piece of business at the time, but no credit given by those who beat up "Fred" with any stick they can think of. You slate them for spending money they "don't have" then slate them for not spending money they "don't have". You're mad. Hyporcritical, and move the goalposts to suit your agenda "anything Fred did lets do differently" You make good points, on the surface. So we'd used up the transfer budget on Woodgate (£9Mill) and all we could afford was Bowyer. Ah well that's a pitty, and you're right I don't endorse mad spending, certainly not to go chasing the unattainable, sadly we were there, we had attained it, all we needed to do was consolidate. If only we'd had a bigger budget. Damn shame that the company (club) that very year, chose to buy back some of it's own shares and strangely only to purchase them from a single shareholder (SJH), £4.5 Million it paid for them, or the equivalent of an additional 50% on the transfer budget. Same year, they also entered into an initial 3 year agreement (worth a million quid or put differently, equivalent to 11% of that years transfer budget) to pay some company for the honour of using offices within SJP, the company was called Shepherd Manpower Services. The club had net assetts worth £36Mill that year, surely the ownership could have lent the club some money (they'd only made about£15Mill from the club by then), shit they could even secured it and charged some interest, or maybe they could have gone without pay (director pay was thick end of £2 Mill or circa 20% of the transfer budget). You see the transfer budget could have been about 80% bigger than it was with no mad spending by the club. That figure doesn't include what Dividends were paid that year either, (I don't know how much that was). No mad spending but maybe just a tightening of the ownership belt, speculate to accumulate, we didn't even have to "chase it" we were there. In 2003 even £4.5 Mill would have been plenty enough for a half decent player, perhaps someone who maybe, just might, have scored that penalty against Partizan.