TheInspiration

I love how Milner has to do very little to be considered "not good enough" - regardless of whather he is our future right-winger, he's played really well recently, so give him credit. Bollocks. He is piss poor and showing it again today. Yup he was rubbish against Man Utd. Your nan would have scored that goal with that amount of power easily. And he was rubbish also last week against Birmingham City despite making the first goal, and being involved with pretty much everything good we did.

I love how Milner has to do very little to be considered "not good enough" - regardless of whether he is our future right-winger, he's played really well recently, so give him credit.

Kamelot - Karma

About what percentage of Christians do people here think don't believe in evolution? I'm quite sure there's a large number of them who do believe in evolution, perhaps as a tool used by God. A lot of people also don't believe in it, but do not believe the universe is 10,000 years old. I personally don't understand how anyone can take the Bible word by word - I believe Genesis is used to describe why the world was created, now how. There's no doubt the Big Bang occurred, but I think it's logical to suggest there was a higher power behind it. After all, what was before it? How could it create something out of nothing, and then create order when explosions create disorder? Regarding evolution, I have to worry however, that there could be a lot of people who dismiss it, but at the same time no far less about it than scientists. This is where they have to be careful. Personally, while I can see it argues against the idea of a creator, it doesn't go near disproving it. There have also been flaws pointed out concerning it. For example, take the eye. Why should natural selection create eyes part by part, if they aren't to benefit the animal until complete? Dawkins has stated that an incomplete eye is more useful than nothing at all, but I still don't understand how the right parts are added (albeit with millions of failures), to eventually create something useful. There would be no brain behind this which would co-ordinate it. Furthermore there's other questions which back up the idea of a creator and a designer. How were gravity and conservation of mass and energy developed? These are fundamental physical laws which are important in keeping the univere in order. Following this, there's the issue that our planet needs to be in a perfect position, with perfect conditions for life to occur on it. The sun's gravitational pull keeps it in orbit. It must be the perfect distance away from it to provide the optimum temperature and light for organisms to survive. The chances of the universe being fine-tuned for such development into complexity from simplicity are microscopic.

Alright, I haven't read the book as a whole, but I've read extracts of it and other books, and have seen his documentaries, such as the one this thread is based on. I haven't even knocked the book anyway, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of his arguments. As for belief. I know this sounds completely stupid and delusional but the reason there's so many Christians with strong faith is because of countless personal meetings with God. I can guarantee some reading this probably have their head in hands already, but if so that just underlines their arrogance. I've seen many things which could only be considred the work of God, and those that atheists just haven't seen themselves. How can people disprove speaking in tongues? In other cases, why is it so many people think it's all in their head, not God speaking to them, yet it keeps re-occuring. I've heard lots of fascinating stories regarding people I know, where people have been told to speak to people, despite initially rejecting it, and in the end save people's lives because of it. I've also seen closes friends be in what looks like a trance or being possessed, like with laughter or crying, yet the events are still really peaceful and moving to them. This happening in huge Christian camps during worship. Why would this be?

Despite the fact there is no evidence supporting the claims of the bible whatsoever ? I think there's logic involved. There's a lot of historical evidence pointing to the existence of a man named Jesus. If Jesus' crucifixion was faked or if he didn't actually rise from the dead this would be proven and passed on through generations. People consider the writings of the likes of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle valid, and they were were written years before Jesus was born. I'm not going to believe in the Bible if it appeared completely illogical and just ridiculous. My beleif is mainly due to personal experiences.

In all honesty, I'm disgusted at some of the stuff that's caused by religion, though if you think about the number of followers it has it shouldn't be surprising. And also, there's many ways you can criticise atheists too. Dawkins must be a hypocrite if he encourages a "blasphemy challenge", as if Christians have done something personal to hurt him. As for the leaders I mentioned, true Hitler wasn't an atheist (stupidty from me), but do you think they'd have still killed so many if they were strong religious followes? I think banning religion wouldn't do any good in the world imo. People forget all the wonderful things that have come from it. As for Dawkins' work, well there's no doubting he's an outstanding scientist and puts forward some interesting arguments, however I've failed to find them convinving enough to sway my beliefs. I also think he misunderstands the Christian belief and faith.

It's all religion's fault. We'd be much better off with atheists. Hitler, Stalin, Mao woulf be great examples.

I know you weren't being racist, but it was a pretty silly thing to say tbh mate. I think it might be because you used the term "f**ker" which could be taken the wrong way.

Wrong forum? That was deliberately quoted from the crappy site might I add. Thoought most of you would have seen that part. You don't hear me using terms like "had a sound craic" anyway.

Toontastic was a great site I had a sound craic, don't go on it anymore only because they are twats.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...o+join+SWP+hunt

Old name: Phil I now dub your ass: Dank-ass G

I'd have to say Rome's a bit of a dump myself, but there's some great attractions there.

The furthest away from mhy lovely home in Kent I've been to is Rome, though I've been their twice. So naturally I'd like to go to lots of places. I hope by the end of my life I'd have visited all the exciting cities in the world, as unlikely as it may seem. Then there's all the other fantastic locations around the world anyone would want to go to, such as the Barrier Reef, Grand Canyon etc. While not a huge ambition, I hope to go to more places in the UK too. I've been to Wales countless times so I've ended up feeling sorry for myself, but only been to Scotland once and never been to Northern Ireland, though I have been to Rep. Ireland. As for Venice, I've been there and I'm sure it is expensive, but it's a lovely place nonetheless. Shame nowhere in this country can be bauilt on canals.

Radiohead - Exit Music (For A Film)

That glass act was scary. His right eye was worryingly close to the glass, and being stamped on woudln't have helped.

Would post my pic but I'm not one to make people jealous, me being the nice guy that I am.

It is fantastic. Shame it's always full of convict scum though.

Currently The Outsider by Albert Camus.

Merry Christmas everyone. Why cook turkey anyway? It's crap.

My mate, also a Man Utd fan got me a Newcastle United scarf. Left "P.S, come on you Red Devils" on the tag, though making it pretty obvious who it was from. Nice present though...

The Cooper Temple Clause - Homo Sapiens

Happy birthday.

Have fun at your Kooks concert. I certainly wouldn't.