TheInspiration

I love how Milner has to do very little to be considered "not good enough" - regardless of whather he is our future right-winger, he's played really well recently, so give him credit. Bollocks. He is piss poor and showing it again today. Yup he was rubbish against Man Utd. Your nan would have scored that goal with that amount of power easily. And he was rubbish also last week against Birmingham City despite making the first goal, and being involved with pretty much everything good we did. Thats it then. The fucker is Garrincha Of course they aren't the only examples. He's had an all round very good season so far. Lack of pace will always be a problem, but his crossing seems to be improving, and should do as he matures more. He's only 20 after all.

I love how Milner has to do very little to be considered "not good enough" - regardless of whather he is our future right-winger, he's played really well recently, so give him credit. Bollocks. He is piss poor and showing it again today. Yup he was rubbish against Man Utd. Your nan would have scored that goal with that amount of power easily. And he was rubbish also last week against Birmingham City despite making the first goal, and being involved with pretty much everything good we did.

I love how Milner has to do very little to be considered "not good enough" - regardless of whether he is our future right-winger, he's played really well recently, so give him credit.

I wont claim Shola is anything better than a 4th choice striker but he was often played with someone who didn't suit him (Shearer) and when he has played as the main target he has normally looked a better player for it. Yup, all of that is correct. Of course he's only a fourth choice striker, but he gets less credit than he deserves. If this was the end of last season, people would be far more positive about him, but as the new season begins they forget about recent good fork and decide he's crap again. He's not had the chance to prove his critics wrong this season due to injury.

Shola is far better. I wish people would stop thinking he's a pile of rubbish, because his goal return since Roeder took over has been very good. I think at least Roeder has helped him improve.

He's crap, so he'll obviously sign.

He's still innocent tbh.

Response was not much different from that of any other Terry Henry goal tbh.

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Charlton 1-3 Boro Will be 15th if I'm right.

Quite injury-prone though.

Let's have another good shift from you at right-back please, and tell the manager that clown called Carr is a waste of space. Thanks.

True, they aren't morons like this guy here.

Kamelot - Karma

Interesting to note how there was no case made after this nice young man's name-calling.

Come on, no need to think so negatively.

About what percentage of Christians do people here think don't believe in evolution? I'm quite sure there's a large number of them who do believe in evolution, perhaps as a tool used by God. A lot of people also don't believe in it, but do not believe the universe is 10,000 years old. I personally don't understand how anyone can take the Bible word by word - I believe Genesis is used to describe why the world was created, now how. There's no doubt the Big Bang occurred, but I think it's logical to suggest there was a higher power behind it. After all, what was before it? How could it create something out of nothing, and then create order when explosions create disorder? Regarding evolution, I have to worry however, that there could be a lot of people who dismiss it, but at the same time no far less about it than scientists. This is where they have to be careful. Personally, while I can see it argues against the idea of a creator, it doesn't go near disproving it. There have also been flaws pointed out concerning it. For example, take the eye. Why should natural selection create eyes part by part, if they aren't to benefit the animal until complete? Dawkins has stated that an incomplete eye is more useful than nothing at all, but I still don't understand how the right parts are added (albeit with millions of failures), to eventually create something useful. There would be no brain behind this which would co-ordinate it. Furthermore there's other questions which back up the idea of a creator and a designer. How were gravity and conservation of mass and energy developed? These are fundamental physical laws which are important in keeping the univere in order. Following this, there's the issue that our planet needs to be in a perfect position, with perfect conditions for life to occur on it. The sun's gravitational pull keeps it in orbit. It must be the perfect distance away from it to provide the optimum temperature and light for organisms to survive. The chances of the universe being fine-tuned for such development into complexity from simplicity are microscopic.

Alright, I haven't read the book as a whole, but I've read extracts of it and other books, and have seen his documentaries, such as the one this thread is based on. I haven't even knocked the book anyway, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of his arguments. As for belief. I know this sounds completely stupid and delusional but the reason there's so many Christians with strong faith is because of countless personal meetings with God. I can guarantee some reading this probably have their head in hands already, but if so that just underlines their arrogance. I've seen many things which could only be considred the work of God, and those that atheists just haven't seen themselves. How can people disprove speaking in tongues? In other cases, why is it so many people think it's all in their head, not God speaking to them, yet it keeps re-occuring. I've heard lots of fascinating stories regarding people I know, where people have been told to speak to people, despite initially rejecting it, and in the end save people's lives because of it. I've also seen closes friends be in what looks like a trance or being possessed, like with laughter or crying, yet the events are still really peaceful and moving to them. This happening in huge Christian camps during worship. Why would this be?

Despite the fact there is no evidence supporting the claims of the bible whatsoever ? I think there's logic involved. There's a lot of historical evidence pointing to the existence of a man named Jesus. If Jesus' crucifixion was faked or if he didn't actually rise from the dead this would be proven and passed on through generations. People consider the writings of the likes of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle valid, and they were were written years before Jesus was born. I'm not going to believe in the Bible if it appeared completely illogical and just ridiculous. My beleif is mainly due to personal experiences.

In all honesty, I'm disgusted at some of the stuff that's caused by religion, though if you think about the number of followers it has it shouldn't be surprising. And also, there's many ways you can criticise atheists too. Dawkins must be a hypocrite if he encourages a "blasphemy challenge", as if Christians have done something personal to hurt him. As for the leaders I mentioned, true Hitler wasn't an atheist (stupidty from me), but do you think they'd have still killed so many if they were strong religious followes? I think banning religion wouldn't do any good in the world imo. People forget all the wonderful things that have come from it. As for Dawkins' work, well there's no doubting he's an outstanding scientist and puts forward some interesting arguments, however I've failed to find them convinving enough to sway my beliefs. I also think he misunderstands the Christian belief and faith.

It's all religion's fault. We'd be much better off with atheists. Hitler, Stalin, Mao woulf be great examples.

Too busy managing the Toon to spend the next six weekends watching Kuyt play for Liverpool.

I know you weren't being racist, but it was a pretty silly thing to say tbh mate. I think it might be because you used the term "f**ker" which could be taken the wrong way.

Wrong forum? That was deliberately quoted from the crappy site might I add. Thoought most of you would have seen that part. You don't hear me using terms like "had a sound craic" anyway.

Toontastic was a great site I had a sound craic, don't go on it anymore only because they are twats.