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Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers. So did Souness at Blackburn tbh Blackburn and Bolton were two completely different situations IMO. What Allardyce did with Bolton is not comparable with what Souness did at Rovers. Liverpool, Galatasaray, Benfica, Southampton, Torino, Newcastle tbh. Souness was sacked from all of them, and was on the verge of dismissal from Blackburn until some idiot decided to employ him. Exactly wheras Allardyce walked the Irish League with Limerick, left to play for Preston then became caretaker when their manager got sacked and turned their fortunes around but missed out on the job fulltime due to inexperience. Went to Blackpool and took them to 3rd place only to be sacked for not gaining promotion. Went to Notts County who were already down when he took over, took them back up the next season becoming the first side to win promotion by March since the war. Then he went to Bolton and we knew what he did there. I just simply refuse to accept the day has come that that description is enough to mark Fat Sam out as Number 1 contender for the job as manager of Newcastle United above any and all other possible candidates. Listen mate, this is what i'm trying to say and have been trying to say since Rodders got sacked and this news broke. Big Sam is not my number one choice for manager of Newcastle United at this current moment in time. I can think of atleast half a dozen people who i'd rather have in the hotseat than him. What I have accpeted though is that Freddy Shepherd is a complete and utter spastic and he is the best we can hope for. If we had a forward thinking chairman who looked further than the channel for managers then maybe alot of people would be more willing to back Klinsmann, Houllier, Sven etc. but do you really thing Freddy's going to appoint someone who isn't from the UK? The only problem I do have is you saying that Allardyce is on a par with Roeder when their respective careers show that you're talking out of your arse. That's HF not me You all merge into one tbh.

Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers. So did Souness at Blackburn tbh Blackburn and Bolton were two completely different situations IMO. What Allardyce did with Bolton is not comparable with what Souness did at Rovers. Liverpool, Galatasaray, Benfica, Southampton, Torino, Newcastle tbh. Souness was sacked from all of them, and was on the verge of dismissal from Blackburn until some idiot decided to employ him. Exactly wheras Allardyce walked the Irish League with Limerick, left to play for Preston then became caretaker when their manager got sacked and turned their fortunes around but missed out on the job fulltime due to inexperience. Went to Blackpool and took them to 3rd place only to be sacked for not gaining promotion. Went to Notts County who were already down when he took over, took them back up the next season becoming the first side to win promotion by March since the war. Then he went to Bolton and we knew what he did there. I just simply refuse to accept the day has come that that description is enough to mark Fat Sam out as Number 1 contender for the job as manager of Newcastle United above any and all other possible candidates. Listen mate, this is what i'm trying to say and have been trying to say since Rodders got sacked and this news broke. Big Sam is not my number one choice for manager of Newcastle United at this current moment in time. I can think of atleast half a dozen people who i'd rather have in the hotseat than him. What I have accpeted though is that Freddy Shepherd is a complete and utter spastic and he is the best we can hope for. If we had a forward thinking chairman who looked further than the channel for managers then maybe alot of people would be more willing to back Klinsmann, Houllier, Sven etc. but do you really thing Freddy's going to appoint someone who isn't from the UK? The only problem I do have is you saying that Allardyce is on a par with Roeder when their respective careers show that you're talking out of your arse.

Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers. So did Souness at Blackburn tbh Blackburn and Bolton were two completely different situations IMO. What Allardyce did with Bolton is not comparable with what Souness did at Rovers. Liverpool, Galatasaray, Benfica, Southampton, Torino, Newcastle tbh. Souness was sacked from all of them, and was on the verge of dismissal from Blackburn until some idiot decided to employ him. And that same idiot is gonna employ Big Sam,i wonder how many would be shouting from the rooftops for him to come here,if the fat one blatantly said he didn't want Sam here and there was no chance? Probably the same amount there are now? What's your point?

Sorry, but that's just bollocks. I've had a look at a lot of older threads yesterday and there were many who wanted him full time last time (ahead of Roeder) - myself included. +1 HF- Back to the film books for you, I'm afraid. And there's more, (with some all for it admittedly, not as many as now though) http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...ic=1677&hl= I understand times/opinions change, but if Shepherd brings in "Big Sam" he's just perpetuating the revolving door situation that keeps attention away from his failings. As fans we're begging for it by blaming Roeder over Shepherd. I see little benefit from going down this path again. -5 Aye, but they're all know nowts

Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers. So did Souness at Blackburn tbh Blackburn and Bolton were two completely different situations IMO. What Allardyce did with Bolton is not comparable with what Souness did at Rovers. Liverpool, Galatasaray, Benfica, Southampton, Torino, Newcastle tbh. Souness was sacked from all of them, and was on the verge of dismissal from Blackburn until some idiot decided to employ him. Exactly wheras Allardyce walked the Irish League with Limerick, left to play for Preston then became caretaker when their manager got sacked and turned their fortunes around but missed out on the job fulltime due to inexperience. Went to Blackpool and took them to 3rd place only to be sacked for not gaining promotion. Went to Notts County who were already down when he took over, took them back up the next season becoming the first side to win promotion by March since the war. Then he went to Bolton and we knew what he did there.

Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers. So did Souness at Blackburn tbh Blackburn and Bolton were two completely different situations IMO. What Allardyce did with Bolton is not comparable with what Souness did at Rovers.

Apart from the fact that Big Sam has a much better managerial record on paper. Souness won a few trophies with very good teams that he then took on to underachieve big style. Allardyce, although lacking on the trophy front has taken Bolton from the first division to top half Premiership finishers.

I'd love to deflate that blokes fat fucking head

Wasn't Shepherd completely unaware of Bobby until he came out in the press and stated his interest in the job?

I'd rather have them both than Allardyce but i'd be suprised if we didn't get Big Sam now.

That square peg doesn't fit that round hole, let's try this triangular one. Nah, just as well leaving the square one tbh. Another question dodged there, HF.

Is it a constant problem or does it just happen if you're doing something fiddly? It's worth getting it checked out like. Most common cause is anxiety, but if you can rule that out then it's possibly something like low blood sugar. Difficult to say really. I've had it for aslong as I remember. It's constantly there but it does get worse two or three times a day for about half an hour/an hour. It doesn't really come on when i've been doing anything paticular, it just happens.

When I was coming back from my holiday last year I was gazing out the window of the plane when a jet black Jumbo flew past what seemed like only a few hundred feet underneath us. I'm sure it must have been a 'spy plane' or something equally as daft but as far as I know I was the only person who saw it.

I've got one for you Cath. Since I can remember i've had shakey hands and I haven't thought much of it until recently when my mam and my girlfriend have both noticed and began pestering me to go to the Doctors. Think it's worth it and anyone know what it may be?

If only his son had an ounce of his talent, he wouldn't have became a laughing stock.

That explains a hell of a lot

As far as I know since the implications were made by agents featured in the programme he can't technically sue the Beeb. Don't know, don't care. Possibly, but I bet we're involved in one or two ourselves. I doubt it. See above. The only standards Freddy has are double standards.

Did you turn your sense of humour off this morning? Turned his fucking brain off a LONG time ago. We sacked Roeder because he is a complete sack of shit! No need for that tbh. I've not abused anyone for their opinion, just expressed my own along with reasons. You mightn't agree at the moment (though you seemed to have a similar opinion of Allardyce a year or two back). It's like sacking Roeder (which might have been worth celebrating because he was a sack of shit) and then giving him the job back. Your opinions are worth fuck all though because you're coming across as a complete tart. The fact you view Allardyce as a manager on a par with Roeder shows how little you know about football.

Obsessed tbh.

No, he's from Dudley and played just one season for Sunderland. And learn how to spell, fucking cretin

Unless they've offered a fucking stupid amount of money I doubt Freddy would accept the deal.

Rodders from todays Mirror

SSH and HF are both knackers

If the club looks as if it's going in the right direction off the pitch then I can wait a season or two. Aslong as we don't go backwards and get dragged into a relegation battle then i'm prepared to give Allardyce time. One thing is club needs is stability and unless it goes completely tits up Allardyce should be given the chance to deliver it.

Something approaching a task the size of managing NUFC might be a start. Answering questions about bung allegations and why he turned us down 3 years ago and why he didn't give us a call last year would also help. First of all, what makes you think we're a big club? There are only three things that are big at NUFC at the minute - Freddy's waistline, the first team's wage bill and the fans expectations. I can't be arsed to get into the bung side of things as Freddy's probably as bent as a nine bob note, too. I personally could not give a toss either that he turned us down three years ago. Unfortunately for you SSH, this job isn't the holy grail of world football and people will turn it down.