Isegrim

clicky clicky

Magnifico.

I don't think we have to alter our methods in the slightest to convict a terrorist because of a crime. And I don't think that a place run like Guantanmo makes another terrorist less likely. In fact I think it makes future terrorist attacks more likely, because it is a symbol that enrages fundamentalistic lunatics even more. And it helps to recruit new people because they just have to mention the name 'Guantanamo'. There are just 500 detainees at Guantanamo and only very few alleged high rank terrorists from Al Qaida or the Taliban. But I think the number of people recruited as new terrorists because of Guantanamo is about ten times the numbers of the actual detainees. And they are the people we really have to fear.

Wow, the man that never gets abusive....errrr.....gets abusive. 106384[/snapback] Er so? Couldn't give a shit tbh. I've seen people die standing up for what we believe in the West. Fuckers like you don't have a clue. Oh my, abusive again. Will Gemma stand it? 106439[/snapback] Ah, so people have died for our right to have places like Guantanamo where we can lock away people for dubious reasons in dubious circumstances? Sorry, I always believed the West stood for its civil rights like fair trials and all this nonsense... 106456[/snapback] And you know this FOR A FACT? How about you define a DUBIOUS CIRCUMSTANCE? Please take into account that when these suspected terrorists are nabbed, the people doing the nabbing are under extreme pressure. Pressure of having their head cut off with a rusty blade. I would never claim we get it right all the time and I would never claim we have no bad apples. No doubt you believe we should be expected to get it right all the time and that we will never have any bad apples. Wake up and become a part of the real world, mate. This is no joking matter and shouldn't be taken lightly. Idealists passing judgement on people living in dangerous circumstances, doing something they have no understanding of, would make me laugh if it wasn't so serious. 106581[/snapback] Why I know it for a fact? Well, there have been people released from Guantanamo because they had to be found not guilty. Those people are now free to tell their versions about their treatment at Guantanamo and how they were kidnapped. Even when taking into account the possbility of lies and exaggerations they still give a sorry verdict about the state at Guantanamo bay. Also after a judgement of an American court the department of defense had to release the protocols of the testimonies of the detainees. Those are official documents who sometimes have more resemblance to a surreal comedy than to a court hearing (http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/detainees/csrt/index.html). And make no mistake, it isn't just about the 'nabbing' of the people as suspected terrorists. You are totally right that the ordinary soldiers who are doing their job are under extreme pressure and having a difficult job to do. But that doesn't excuse the process that started in the aftermaths, because that is the time were our western values come to place. You might know better what the job of a soldier is about, but I consider myself competent enough to pass judgement about the standard of legal proceedings. And in my eyes even suspected terrorists have the right of a trial in accordance with the rule of law. It is not about letting those people free but it is about locking them up when they have been found guilty. If there is evidence that those people detained at Guantanmo are terrorists or did help terrorists then maybe imprison them for several years, decades or for the rest of their lives. But if you can't come up with the evidence then you can't keep someone locked up just because he was found at the wrong place in Afghanistan when an American combat unit drove by. The other things is that an imprisonment on remand should neither take place at a part of an island where American law doesn't apply nor should it take four years to charge or clear the suspects. And if you charge them give them a fair trial, not just a hearing in front of a military tribunal without sufficient legal aid, competent translators etc. You can gladly call me an idealist, though I repeat I thought these were the ideals that separates us from the terrorists and muslim fundamentalists...

Wow, the man that never gets abusive....errrr.....gets abusive. 106384[/snapback] Er so? Couldn't give a shit tbh. I've seen people die standing up for what we believe in the West. Fuckers like you don't have a clue. Oh my, abusive again. Will Gemma stand it? 106439[/snapback] Ah, so people have died for our right to have places like Guantanamo where we can lock away people for dubious reasons in dubious circumstances? Sorry, I always believed the West stood for its civil rights like fair trials and all this nonsense...

Don't know why the hell i put Mick Martin instead of Tommy Craig there! 106389[/snapback] Just to put me close to a heart attack?

BTW - they yesterday had a report on TV about the British kitchen and were showing a shop selling deep fried mars bars in Edinburg. But not only that but also deep fried pizza ... though at least it wasn't tartan...

Blogs, the thunderboxes of the world wide web...

Should he be used as sub for the first team then?

Why isn't he turning out for the reserves to get some match fitness/sharpness?

The general opinion of the campaign is lunatic fringe at best, betting scam at worst. That's definitely the impression the media and FS are giving, I don't know about Hitzfeld. 106069[/snapback] I don't think that Hitzfeld has much of an opinion about it at all. He's heard about it, but that's most likely all about it. In the Jorman media the campaign has just been a small footnote and nothing more.

He is a primadonna tbh. 106030[/snapback] You're thinking of Jens Lehmann 106038[/snapback] No, he is a wanker.

He is a primadonna tbh.

There should have been an indoor marathon for Paula tbh...

I have to say that I kind of agree with HTL's judgement. Ramage has done remarkably well this season considering the circumstances and was all around a bright spot, but I don't think he will be anything more than a mediocre Premiership player in the future. Solid in the Hughesinho style but nothing more.

He is talking proper shite. Again.

tbh 105454[/snapback] I was rather thinking of tbh.

Wow! Right in the balls! 105361[/snapback] You're in a canny mood the neet, whats up? 105372[/snapback] A new day, I'm in a bastard mood today. See yesterday as just a 'blip'. Bit like when we beat those pub teams when shithead was here, like. Seriously, I was having a laugh yesterday but got booted off by the kids. I definitely need another PC.......... I'm toying with the idea of scrapping this machine ( it's awld ) and buying 2 cheap laptops, the idea being to set up a broadband wireless connection with a single printer stuck in a corner somewhere out of the way, connected to the other gubbins whatever it is. Could 'log' on when I'm on the bog! This would free up a bedromm that I can use for something else, bring some exercise stuff in for the SO to help thin her down a bit. 105435[/snapback] Cheeky twat! I've got a laptop with wireless and am in bed with the cricket on, pissing about on here. Definitely recommend the wireless thang. 105441[/snapback] Why don't you just move in at HTL's. So HTL gets his wireless laptop and rewards you by helping you to thin down a bit...

Oooh, you bitch 105221[/snapback] But you'll never catch HTT who currently is on approx. 7,738,612 words with his 280 posts...

The next big task for alex will be to hit the 8,000 words landmark.

SLP is a creep!

I think the new Eamon Dunphy quotes are far better...

Definately, just look at the othernight some of his runs and movement off the ball were sensational, what true World Class striker is all about, whereas Drogbar is just a big carthorse 104757[/snapback] Still think he should have left Drogba on when he brought on Crespo though. I think you'll agree he would have done a better job upfront than Huth did 104758[/snapback] Funny tactic that like. When all a team can do is humping the ball up front you think they would need a player at the receiving and whose touches don't make Shola look like Pele... 104763[/snapback] I rate Huth but he was like the proverbial fish out of water. 104764[/snapback] I rate Huth too (despite having to see him in the national team), but he is still very raw and his positional and technical skills (as well as his general appearance) are similar to those of an elephant. He should have left Chelsea to get some match practice before getting thrown onto the international stage.

Definately, just look at the othernight some of his runs and movement off the ball were sensational, what true World Class striker is all about, whereas Drogbar is just a big carthorse 104757[/snapback] Still think he should have left Drogba on when he brought on Crespo though. I think you'll agree he would have done a better job upfront than Huth did 104758[/snapback] Funny tactic that like. When all a team can do is humping the ball up front you think they would need a player at the receiving and whose touches don't make Shola look like Pele...

25. POSTING VERY OLD "FUNNY" STUFF ON INTERNET FORUMS - "Hey, wait. What do you mean with 'man invents wheel'"...