McFaul

Must have hit the prostate tbh!

We bid £10m for him in August didn't we but they said we want £15m? I'm nee Gabrielle Marcotti, but he's a good fuckin player this kid seen him a few times, dead quick over the first 10 yards and has PRESENCE about him wanting the ball, and wanting to do something different.

MMMfffmmmfmfmfmfm *spit spit* :lol:

To be fair the PLC wanted Les to go to balance the annual books, and £6m for a 30 year old then was good business, plus that £6m and more was reinvested within 6 months. Tino lets be quite honest was shite in the league usually, and we got £6m for him when he was past his best as proved by his shite form at Parma, and Hamann wanted to be away and was a cunt off the pitch, different to being a selling club like say Everton have been for years, or we are now.

What he did would make sense if the £35m was taken to be extraordinary income and used in addition to our planned expenditure. However, it hasn't. And given that we're supposed to be near breaking even and looking like we may earn more money than planned through our league position then, 'where has the money gone?' is a valid question. It's so fucking frustrating because he calculates the wage over the term of the contract as being the outgoing NOW. It's so fucking stupid because you're calculating the cost of a five year contract, who's to say any given player isn't to leave in 2 years time. Are you sure that is the approach being taken? I thought that the transfer fee, plus agent fees, plus the first year of the wages were being considered not the entire contract that would be beyond taking the piss. 100% that's the approach being taken, even alluded to by Pardew and Llambias. Yeh I heard Pardew going on about it around the time of the training ground upgrade. I interpreted it differently. I struggle to believe it could even be true. But if it is then that is utter shit. It is unequivocally true. Wage over the length of contract plus agent fees is what they consider to be utilising surplus cash brought in from transfer outgoings.

What he did would make sense if the £35m was taken to be extraordinary income and used in addition to our planned expenditure. However, it hasn't. And given that we're supposed to be near breaking even and looking like we may earn more money than planned through our league position then, 'where has the money gone?' is a valid question. It's so fucking frustrating because he calculates the wage over the term of the contract as being the outgoing NOW. It's so fucking stupid because you're calculating the cost of a five year contract, who's to say any given player isn't to leave in 2 years time. Are you sure that is the approach being taken? I thought that the transfer fee, plus agent fees, plus the first year of the wages were being considered not the entire contract that would be beyond taking the piss. 100% that's the approach being taken, even alluded to by Pardew and Llambias.

What he did would make sense if the £35m was taken to be extraordinary income and used in addition to our planned expenditure. However, it hasn't. And given that we're supposed to be near breaking even and looking like we may earn more money than planned through our league position then, 'where has the money gone?' is a valid question. It's so fucking frustrating because he calculates the wage over the term of the contract as being the outgoing NOW. It's so fucking stupid because you're calculating the cost of a five year contract, who's to say any given player isn't to leave in 2 years time.

The 9 people who voted Ashley was a canny bloke should own up.

The point regarding the wages being a part of his thinking in any deal is a valid one, and only valid because this is how Mike Ashley thinks. Literally ANY other chairman, signs someone and their wage is calculated over a say a 5 year period. It's always worked that way so say we sign Cissokho on 50k a week, his wage will be £2.5m a year calculated in say 2016's wage budget of say £55m. It's a natural outgoing of a club per season. Ashley doesn't think that way, and the £35m for Carroll will be swallowed up by 5 year contracts. It's an absolute fucking joke, and there's no other way to look at it.

Clear now LM

Apparently Newcastle Falcons could've saved them. The administrator alleged that the Falcons asked them about the possibility of relocating to Darlo, bit harsh on toon rugby fans like. There was 4000 Darlo fans could be arsed to go to a friendly against us on a Friday night, if they turned up every week they wouldn't be in this mess.

When they played at Feethams and they had the likes of Steve Borthwick, Andy Toman and Gabbiadini playing for them 7 and 8000 wasn't an unusual occurance. The stadium fucked them.

Work a bit mental, was it? Aye, been going through an investigation for 4 months for frig all. Got told on Wednesday that I have no case to answer after all. Spoilt Xmas for me the bastards! Were you touching up the mental cases? oh whey aye! I can't go into it obviously but the case was against someone else rather than me Bloke or a woman?

People from Darlo who support the toon and Leeds should hang their heads in shame imo.

I didn't read the full thing just LM saying there was I confess, but there's bound to have been some cunt sticking up for him, there usually is.

We've got surplus cash if you take the view that every penny of transfer sales should go on transfer spend. Ashley doesnt take that view because you obviously also have to pay for those players once theyre here and obviously theyre going to want more wages than those leaving. If a trainee goes for £35 million, what does a £35 million replacement come in for? They'll expect four or five times the wages-so over 5 years that might cost an extra £20 million again than the original player was on. It's an extreme example but it's the bit that just gets ignored as the debate gets over simplified. It's the wages he's got an issue with rather than transfer fees per se imho. Hence why Barton can go on a free etc etc. So yeah as long as players are looking for more than the ceiling in wages they'll go and as long as there are daft bids (Carroll) they'll go. Theres only a few clubs who can offer this though and Leazes has already said that we shouldnt compete with those teams financially, so the ridicule is deserved because he's just shouting slogans at the end of the day and contradicting himself. That and he's stuck in the past. nb even Chelsea have tried to get Cahill on his existing Bolton wages so it'll be interesting to see where their policy is going in terms of which clubs are likely to just walk in and throw trucks of money at our players. The wage issue is a valid point, but Tottenham are managing with a ceiling of £75,000 a week, with TV revenues going up every season, and no doubt commercial ventures will increase as our profile continues to rise, why is 75k a week such an obscene figure? We were paying Owen £103,000 a week plus bonuses. Owen and Martins must've been the straw that broke the camels back, but Tottenham are managing with that, and Arsenal did for years, so I don't see why that ceiling is beyond us. Fucking Everton's wage bill is higher than ours. Everton!??

of course, all this is correct, I don't give a toss what out of towners etc think of what I say though Stevie, they are only showing how little they know, especially the ones who don't attend games yet still think they know everything. Time will tell. It's very sad, that so many people have been taken in by this clown of an owner. Newcastle United are now existing like they did under the owners of the 1970's and 80's. This is the very best it will ever get under Mike Ashley, I've explained why, and why people are happy and "enjoying" under-achievement is completely beyond me. We will always sell our best players and behave like a small club while this man owns us, the the scary thing is, as a top premiership club is the ideal vehicle to sit alongside a worldwide Sports company, he may be here for the long haul. Well to be honest I've really enjoyed this season, and I honestly hope it continues, but we are the Aldi of football clubs, where we are is down to luck rather than some ground breaking plan. That said I must repeat if it keeps working great, but don't fucking stand still when we've come this far, especially as we have a really solid base now with a genuine chance of breaking up there. This is not deluded, Chelsea are shit, their best players and late 20's to mid 30's they will sooner or later need 7 or 8 new faces to compete that's a fact. You take van Persie away, we're as good if not better than Arsenal, and there's no difference in quality between our best eleven and the dippers. That's not being deluded, tell me if I am, and the point is a little push and we can cement our place as part of a big seven maybe even considering the CL as a remote possibility every season. It's up to Ashley, but I wish people would fuck off sucking his cock, it gets on my tits, and it's fucking clueless.

For all of the mass ridiculing of LM, how anyone can say we are not a selling club beggars belief. The fact is rightly or wrongly if a bid comes in at the maximum value (or higher) that we rate a player we'll sell. I don't think it was wrong to sell Carroll for £35m, he's a big £10m striker, but what is the point when it's not being invested properly? We have surplus cash through our transfer dealings, how anyone can deny that beggars belief, and the point LM makes is we're two players from being a very good side. He's right, well he's not right, I think we're four players away from being a better squad of players than Liverpool. The fact is we have the money to do it, not money he'll have to fork out of his billions, surplus money from the £51m we generated last year. Are we going to sit on our hands and do fuck all, when we have (by luck) got this brilliant opportunity? Tiote is away, every time I've come up with a piece of ITK I've been right, all I'm saying is he's going to Chelsea in June for £23m. Ba may stay, but Tiote is a player we can't replace. You replace players like him with Michael Essien, I don't mind the fact we can't pay £20m+ for players, but at least keep the best fucking ones so we have a chance to grow. There's no reason to sell Tiote. He has a good attitude, he's an absolute rock in the middle of the park and he on the face of it is happy here. I agree with LM, a lot of people saying things in hindsight here, regarding the side we have, it was good business yes, very good business, but we're known as a selling club, when the fact is we're financially secure enough to hold our own. The success (comparatively) of late, has been the result of luck. That fat bastard had no idea what a success Carr and Pardew would make of it, they were given a remit buy cheap, sell high, repeat ad finitum.

Fuck me that's like Keith Lard!

Hot Air Balooning, we're doing it in the spring. They go from Hexham and Consett, can't wait to be honest, only £160 for two.

Paddy's areet, seems one of lifes happy cunts.

You ever been to Nottingham? Wannabe gangster central. Aye, the same kid I rowed with was at Uni there. West Bridgford he stayed what a shithole, belta chippy on his street though. West Bridgford! You poor sod. There's quite a bad gang culture up there St Anne's way and I'm mates with a few locals who had their fair share of bother but I lived there four years and had no trouble. That's what I was thinking, when I lived there West Bridgford was the posh part. I did live in The Meadows mind you. Almost made Sunderland seem okay. I tell you where it was there was an Asda or Safeway just off the main road and he lived up the street where the chippy was. Unbelievable portions 2 bags in one.

Yes this is some of my problem with the new Wemberlee. I take Barrack's testimony, good story and yes it looks and sounds fantastic. But the price differential between there and Cardiff is staggering. I realise Dr Ken isn't being precise with his figures but its something similar. And...................to help cover costs every FA semi is played there whether or not its remotely neutral and every England international - its an England team , not London or South east or whatever. And the corporate area is disproportionately big, what is it 15,000 strong or something? Maybe , I'm a miserable twat but they could have built a bigger capacity stadium in the midlands or the north for far less dosh, bigger capacity and a smaller corporate area. A lot of words from me to say, yeah I'm sure its great but.................................... Clearly a geordie geordie, with Northern views, I obviously don't know him but anyone with these values will be missed in the community, it's made sadder by the fact he's only 50.

Aye and I think you'll see a lot of this over the next month for the reasons you state. Not much was made of it like on MOTD, but I thought the Swansea penalty was a scandal. Dyer raked HIS boots doon Ramsay's shin and gets a penalty?!?! How does that work?

RIP Barry, great poster