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2 relagations on Michael Owens CV would make me laugh

Am trying to keep my personal feelings out of it and compare her record with others. She changed a lot of things, but so did Roy Jenkins.As Home Secretary he abolished capital punishment and legalised both abortion and homosexuality. Roy Jenkins fundamentally changed millions of people's lives as much as Thatcher did. Some would argue more so. State funeral for Woy? not mentioned as far as I recall...

Wtf? Why? I dont get it. What did she acheive?...Blair won more wars than her and the economy sorted for over a decade too. Blair and Major also acheived peace in Northern Ireland. Am not a supporter of any of these people but why all the plaudits for her?...first woman PM? isnt this now supposed to be an equal society because of the likes of her? would she like to be singled out? did she acheive more than the Pankhursts on that score? Utter, utter shite. agreed We play Benfica before the mackems...(attempted) silence before the game Thursday?..

Is the Benfica game more important?....given the chance I'd be tempted to make a deal with the devil for this game only...give us a two nowt on Thursday and Sunday won't matter as much...or does it?...

Didnt Jonas have a run at left back before?...started well iirc, then tailed off somewhat...Duff was the same. We need specialists, not bit parters.

HBA wont start CT, even Pardew will learn from last time. Seemingly not yourself mind.

Not seen many players with a better first touch in general...a mate said it about a month after he signed....."just watch him and look how he takes the ball"...its a thing of beauty

>Yeah...didnt think it was lack of effort though, although it can look like that when the opposiston are as inspired as they were. Saying it was is not looking at what how they played in the game, which is where CT came in when it appeared to him that Fulham were "toothless". I suppose we all see different things though. This team,actually this club, is a work in progress. Over acheiveing last season and underacheiveing this. We do have a good squad but we lack consistancy.If we are to all join Mike's happy bus, we're going to need a lot of patience and accept our limitations. Our away form needs to improve next season to say the least. Not playing in Europe will help...if we don't go and do something daft like win the Europa league...

Thought Hangeland and Senderos were very good, but Fulham decided a point was good enough after we didn't give them a moment on the ball hardly all match. We're not Barcelona. And never have been. These players don't give up for Pardew though, he must be doing something right. Effort is always as important as inspiration, and what you do when you haven't got the ball is always as important as what you do when you do have it.That is something we do have in common with Barcelona. Here endeth the lesson

Anything to do with what we did when we didn't have the ball by any chance?.....

Book will have to wait...just spent £40 on prints We're on holiday from Sat 6th July which is the last showing so may well be able to catch the last show that night if we come up

Anyone seen the Ashington Group Collection at Woodhorn Mueseum?...we were there a couple weeks ago. Very interesting if you like your North East social history. Ordered a couple of prints "Fish Sale" by Harry Wilson and "Dawn" by George Brownrigg. http://www.ashingtongroup.co.uk/artists1.html

I'd take a QPR win like...Sunday press saying Remy off to Arsenal if they go down...

Where you been hiding mate?...got yerself a bird no doubt

Thought Hangeland and old wossisname from Arsenal were excellent....we played well v 11 men behind the ball for most of the second half. Feel sorry for Sissoko hes not had a rest since he signed and now looks out on his feet after an hour or so in most games.

Dedders won that for us, welcome back old friend

They almost scored on the counter from that and he'd compleltey bottled the challenge . Theres a lot of myths about Cabaye. He can't be arsed half the time as far as I can make out, regardless of how good he is when he wants to be.

I sort of agree with you, if he's shite then he should be sacked whether we stay up or not this summer, it would appear you'd agree with that?.... With an 8 year contract that's unllkely. Who gave him that?...theres no criticsm of that, but it would appear that that's a big problem for us if Pardew isn't good enough. Do you think Ashley might "do a Hughton" again?...a man to "take us to the next level"?...

Who appoints the managers again?....

Tbf you were the first one on here to utter "PARDEW OUT!!!".........its Ashley who appoints, but Pardew gets all the criticsm, with no realistic successors mentioned...I don't understand it.You're lucky you weren't around for the "sack the board" days mate, I fear one as delicate as you may not have survived... Howman used to tie bits of paper with prospective managers names on and throw them at Gordon Mckeag's Jag back then..thats how he used to roll....

Or was that Pardew putting a brave face on things?...he's not a puppet tbf, but he does have puppet-ish tendancies and will do the grown up's PR for them "gotta thank Mike and Derek blah blah blah...." Pardew goes along with what he's given. And will say he likes it.

No, but we didn't have Ryanair then either....largely agree with what you say about income, but that is the difference, not class. Or are we saying the old middle class that would run a fuckin mile from a load of folk drinking beer and singing before a football match has disappeared, and the only people who can't afford a weekend or two abroad during the year are those too lazy to get a job in the first place?...its a tricky one, but there are a range of other factors too...possibly not many who went midweek had two or three teenage kids to bring up, in saying that it certainly didn't look like it and if the kids are in a single parent family being brought up by the mother then the state is likely to be taking the strain, leaving more disposable income for the old man for a jolly up. Not many of the Provence set are on tax credits as far as I know..btw the baked cod was lovely, but the other 3 had burger and chips, and 8 euros a head would indicate it wasn't exactly "posh"

So successive waves of British football supoporters who have travelled abroad over the last 5 decades to watch their team in Europe have all been indulging in a thoroughly middle class pursuit, and no doubt look on it as much the same as their fortnight in Tuscany or Provence in the summer? And there is always the undedifying sight of course of the" ladies who lunch" having an off with the local riot police

Agreed, lots of knee jerking going on. If we could get a better manager though I wouldn't be completly against it.....would a Benitez with a point to prove be an upgrade?...would Ashley pay the wages of a manager who has managed at a much higher level than Pardew?....

A mate said at half time last night that he thought things went tits up in the first half around the time Perch got booked....just saying..... Lots of disenchantment with Pardew post game, ....lots suggesting Rafa Benitez for next season...any takers?...would he work for Ashley?....what he could do to legislate for Santon being an abysmal defender I don't know like....