Tooj 17 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 You're really using Supermac to justify your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Genuine question here CT - do you think Marveaux is better than Ben Arfa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13882 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 There's an obvious joke there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Genuine question here CT - do you think Marveaux is better than Ben Arfa? Irrelevant. Ben Arfa haven't had or will not have a decent run for us this season, Marveaux have had and will have more. That's how the score is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Genuine question here CT - do you think Marveaux is better than Ben Arfa? Not better, different. I don't think HBA would have got the two assists that Marveaux did this week. That's not to say HBA wouldn't have either scored himself or created two different assists. I would love to have seen Cabaye, Marveaux, HBA and Sissoko all on the field at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think we'd all like to see that at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9014 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Even Supermac kno.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Might have made more sense if he wanted him playing instead of say Gouffran but Tiote or Jonas. Why dont some people get the fact you need different types of players who can perform different roles. All about getting the balance right. Not as simple as playing the technically better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would love to have seen Cabaye, Marveaux, HBA and Sissoko all on the field at the same time. Yes, as would I. However, you also need some players who can help the team out defensively. Hence why you see the best from Cabaye when Tiote plays and the best from Santon with Jonas in front. An all out attacking formation sounds appealing but would be absolutely ripped apart by the most average of PL sides. Marveaux is a perfect impact sub to bring on against a tired defence. He has notched two great assists in the last two games, but both have been very late in the game against tired defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Yes, as would I. However, you also need some players who can help the team out defensively. Hence why you see the best from Cabaye when Tiote plays and the best from Santon with Jonas in front. An all out attacking formation sounds appealing but would be absolutely ripped apart by the most average of PL sides. Marveaux is a perfect impact sub to bring on against a tired defence. He has notched two great assists in the last two games, but both have been very late in the game against tired defences. Sorry mate I just don't buy it, havent all season. Pardew gears us up to play over cautious football far too often and there is no need for it. It was great a season or two ago? When Pardew used Jonas in that defensive mid role against Man U and he looked good, but overall his game has been killed ending up in his worst season for the club. Against average teams you could easily play with those four. Not worth arguing really as its probably never likely to happen. Edited March 17, 2013 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13882 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Why do you think Pardew might adopt a cautious - i.e pragmatic approach? People were asking us to push up against Spurs ffs. There's a lot of teams we've played this season where we would have had our arse handed to us had we went for it a bit more - including Metalist/Anzhi recently- It's a fine line & of course most approaches look worse when you don't have the correct squad to employ them. Again, nobody had a problem with it last year now everybody's on Townsends tactics truck preaching rubbish, Jose Mourihno often adopted a 'cautious' aproach in England, whilst also playing variations of 4-3-3.... I think with Marv/Sissoko/Cabaye/Ben Arfa we'd have to employ a proper system & we'd need full backs instead of wingbacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What were we saying about Marveaux going missing for long periods of the game? Apart from a decent corner, I forgot he was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14632 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What were we saying about Marveaux going missing for long periods of the game? Apart from a decent corner, I forgot he was playing. Doesn't want the ball...hiding behind his teammates...I did it for 20 years on a Sunday morning so I know what am talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Disappointing game from him so far, needs to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and be the focal point of our attacking play and he's not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13882 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He never does. Good ball in before but he's got a heart the size of a pea - which is unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34622 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 For CT's reference, that's probably about 3/4 the size of a baked bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Been our worst player on the pitch by far today. Even Obertan would have been better then him today. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Aye, missing. Mugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13882 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Shut the fuck up man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14632 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He played better second half after Shola came on in the 67th minute....think he was at the Trafford Centre with Halsey before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 when we were on top today he was on the ball and (apart from cocking up a few passes) looked ok non-existent when we were struggling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Nowhere to be seen when the team's in trouble. The amount of space Wigan sometimes had in midfield today..... Cant see this guy being anything other than an impact sub as long as he's at a half decent team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hasn't got the right attitude at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 CT nowhere to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13882 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Aye, missing. Mugs CT nowhere to be seen He tried to say something. Not sure what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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