Obama once again showing America is Israel's lapdog.

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

The settlers are morons, no doubt. I find Palestinian people who blow themselves up in public places aiming only to kill israeli civilians equally troubling. Like clee says, there are two sides to this story.

 

Irgun & Stern militants were quite adept at going for maximum casualties too, in public places....... the JDL, and other Kahanist extremist groups as well, for which Baruch Goldstein had connections with.

[Park Life 70]

The settlers are morons, no doubt. I find Palestinian people who blow themselves up in public places aiming only to kill israeli civilians equally troubling. Like clee says, there are two sides to this story.

 

Irgun & Stern militants were quite adept at going for maximum casualties too, in public places....... the JDL, and other Kahanist extremist groups as well, for which Baruch Goldstein had connections with.

 

...and Baruch Obama no doubt.

[Billy Castell 0]

Where do/did the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judeah fit in?

[ewerk 26441]

Sarkozy called Israeli PM Netanyahu 'liar'

 

 

 

French President Nicolas Sarkozy called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a "liar" in remarks to US President Barack Obama overheard by journalists.

 

"I can't see him anymore, he's a liar," Mr Sarkozy said in French.

 

"You may be sick of him, but me, I have to deal with him every day," Mr Obama replied.

 

The exchange at the G20 summit was quoted by a French website, Arret sur Images, and confirmed by other media.

 

The remarks - during a private conversation - were overheard by a few journalists last week but were not initially reported, the BBC's Christian Fraser in Paris says.

 

For several days there was media silence in France about the exchange - a decision had been taken not to embarrass the French president, our correspondent says.

 

A correspondent for Le Monde newspaper referred to the conversation without the quotes.

 

But Israeli newspapers have reported it in full.

 

It is said Mr Obama was taking Mr Sarkozy to task for voting in favour of the Palestinian bid for full membership of the UN cultural organisation, Unesco, a bid that was approved despite American opposition.

 

Parky approves.

Edited November 8, 2011 by ewerk

[Park Life 70]

Obama is so spineless. Well done the Frenchie.

[Happy Face 29]

Obama is so spineless. Well done the Frenchie.

 

Not sure if spineless is the word. Don't believe he wants to do anything but keep Israel happy.

 

Many officials in office in America place Israeli interests above those of the US, and say so out loud.

[aimaad22 3472]

Good time for brining this out again. This kid slaughtering coward actually has a Nobel peace prize to his name

 

Absolutely gut wrenching whats going on in Gaza

[aimaad22 3472]

 

A central premise of US media coverage of the Israeli attack on Gaza - beyond the claim that Israel is justifiably "defending itself" - is that this is some endless conflict between two foreign entitles, and Americans can simply sit by helplessly and lament the tragedy of it all. The reality is precisely the opposite: Israeli aggression is possible only because of direct, affirmative, unstinting US diplomatic, financial and military support for Israel and everything it does. This self-flattering depiction of the US as uninvolved, neutral party is the worst media fiction since TV news personalities covered the Arab Spring by pretending that the US is and long has been on the side of the heroic democratic protesters, rather than the key force that spent decades propping up the tyrannies they were fighting.

Literally each day since the latest attacks began, the Obama administration has expressed its unqualified support for Israel's behavior. Just two days before the latest Israeli air attacks began, Obama toldPalestinian Prime Minister Mahmud Abbas "that his administration opposes a Palestinian bid for non-state membership of the UN". Both the US Senate and House have already passed resolutions unequivocally supporting Israel, thus earning the ultimate DC reward: the head-pat from Aipac, which "praised the extraordinary show of support by the Senate for Israel's struggle against terrorist attacks on its citizens". More bipartisan Congressional cheerleading is certain to come as the attacks continue, no matter how much more brutal they become.

In reflexive defense of Israel, the US government thus once against put itself squarely at odds with key nations such as Turkey (whose prime minister accused Israel of being motivated by elections and demandedthat Israel be "held to account" for mounting civilians deaths), Egypt (which denounced Israeli attacks as "aggression against humanity"), and Tunisia (which called on the world to "stop the blatant aggression" of Israel).

By rather stark contrast, Obama continues to defend Israel's free hand in Gaza, causing commentators like Jeffrey Goldberg to gloat, not inaccurately: "Barack Obama hasn't turned against Israel. This is a big surprise to everyone who has not paid attention for the last four years" (indeed, there are few more compelling signs of how dumb and misleading US elections are than the fact that the only criticism of Obama on Israel heard over the last year in the two-party debate was the grievance that Obama evinces insufficient fealty - rather than excessive fealty - to the Israeli government). That the Netanyahu government knows that any attempt to condemn Israel at the UN would be instantly blocked by the US is a major factor enabling them to continue however they wish. And, of course, the bombs, planes and tanks they are using are subsidized, in substantial part, by the US taxpayer.

If one wants to defend US support for Israel on the merits - on the ground that this escalating Israeli aggression against a helpless population is just and warranted - then one should do so. As I wrote on Thursday, it's very difficult to see how those who have cheered for Obama's foreign policy could do anything but cheer for Israeli militarism, as they are grounded in the same premises.

But pretending that the US - and the Obama administration - bear no responsibility for what is taking place is sheer self-delusion, total fiction. It has long been the case that the central enabling fact in Israeli lawlessness and aggression is blind US support, and that continues, more than ever, to be the case under the presidency of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.

The US is not some neutral, uninvolved party. Whatever side of this conflict you want to defend - or if you're one of those people who love to announce that you just wish the whole thing would go away - it's still necessary to take responsibility for the key role played by the American government and this administration in enabling everything that is taking place.

Media coverage

Due to extensive travel the past few days, I've been subjected to far more television news coverage than is probably healthy, and it's just been staggering to see how tilted US media discourse is: Israeli officials and pro-Israel "experts" are endlessly paraded across the screen while Palestinian voices are exceedingly rare; the fact of the 45-year-old brutal occupation and ongoing Israeli dominion over Gaza is barely mentioned; meanwhile, every primitive rocket that falls harmlessly near Israeli soil is trumpeted with screaming headlines while the carnage and terror in Gazais mentioned, if at all, as an afterthought. Two cartoons perfectly summarize this coverage: here and here.

On a related note, the Nation's Jeremy Scahill was interviewed on Tuesday night after a Sundance Institute panel on political documentaries which I moderated. Scahill, who is working on a documentary entitled "Dirty Wars" about the US violence in Yemen and other parts of the Muslim world, spoke for 12 minutes to We Are Change about Obama's terrorism and foreign policies; I highly recommend it:

UPDATE

According to Haaretz, Israel's Interior Minister, Eli Yishai, said this about Israel's attacks on Gaza: "The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages." Let me know if any of the US Sunday talk shows mention that tomorrow during their discussions of this "operation".

UPDATE II [sun.]

Gilad Sharon, the son of former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, hasan Op-Ed in today's Jerusalem Post in which, among other things, he writes [emphasis added]:

"

We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza.

The Americans didn't stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren't surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too.

"There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing."

Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch today went to Twitter to announce: "Obama [is] making excellent statements on Israeli situation."

[Kid Dynamite 5937]

I see the opposition leader is goading Obama, we should be at war with Russia apparently. Shit like that makes me glad Obama is still in charge

[TobamorisRevenge 0]

Look forward to the IDF crushing the hamas dictator state. No room for evil like that in the middle east. Almost as bad as isis.

 

Vile murderes the lot of em!

[Kid Dynamite 5937]

Eye for an eye and all that yeah?

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Israel did not take the Gaza Strip nor the West Bank from the Palestinians in 1967. The pro-Palestinian mobs can gather as often as they like at Grey's Monument,with their Palestinian flags flying high ,but i know from experience,they will not discuss who ruled these areas before 1967.Since 1967.all religions can visit their holy sites in Jerusalem.The jews were not allowed to visit the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967.Synagoges were used as stables by the arabs during this period.Jewish gravestones were used to make paths.There are people on here who know a lot more about the Arab - Israeli conflict than i do,but the facts mentioned above are never highlighted by the Palestinians.

[RedfernMag 0]

Look forward to the IDF crushing the hamas dictator state. No room for evil like that in the middle east. Almost as bad as isis.

 

Vile murderes the lot of em!

 

a flaccid cock leaking tepid dish water.

[ewerk 26441]

Aye. But what 'bout the mackems?

[aimaad22 3472]

Over 100 hundred dead in a day. Just utterly ridiculous, as is the BBC coverage of the issue. Total dead children over 100 too now ffs. This is genocide and the world is silent.

 

The fact the general population worldwide seems to be protesting on the roads gives me encouragement there's still some hope for humanity.

[Howmanheyman 26928]

Over 100 hundred dead in a day. Just utterly ridiculous, as is the BBC coverage of the issue. Total dead children over 100 too now ffs. This is genocide and the world is silent.

 

The fact the general population worldwide seems to be protesting on the roads gives me encouragement there's still some hope for humanity.

Wasting your your breath.

 

Something stinks.

[Park Life 70]

[Park Life 70]

[Rayvin 4964]

I was under the impression - and I'm very ready to be corrected on this - that Hamas was firing rockets into Israel throughout this. And that a ceasefire was called, and that they kept going. They have some responsibility here.

 

Not that this would justify what Israel are doing. It seems they're taking the view that peace is failing, and now only horror and death can solve the matter.

[Park Life 70]

I was under the impression - and I'm very ready to be corrected on this - that Hamas was firing rockets into Israel throughout this. And that a ceasefire was called, and that they kept going. They have some responsibility here.

 

Not that this would justify what Israel are doing. It seems they're taking the view that peace is failing, and now only horror and death can solve the matter.

The peace plan 'ceasefire' was cooked up between Israel and Egypt with no input from Hamas so they has little choice but to decline it. It is important to note that last time there was a ceasefire Israel continued operations (lighter) for two weeks once the worlds eyes had turned away...

Edited July 23, 2014 by Park Life

[Happy Face 29]

Wall Street Journal endorse Osama Bin Laden's justification for 9/11...

 

http://mattbruenig.com/2014/07/21/osama-bin-laden-in-the-wall-street-journal/

 

[Park Life 70]

The Western leaders live in fear from pro-Israel lobbies which are well funded and entrenched within the political classes of the U.K. and the U.S.

In depth article here

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/tom-mills-hilary-aked-tom-griffin-david-miller/uk%E2%80%99s-pro-israel-lobby-in-context

Funding for Conservative Friends of Israel was raised mainly by Michael Sacher, the man behind BIPAC.[22] Other major donors included the multi-millionaire business tycoons Trevor Chinn, Gerald Ronson and Cyril Stein.[23] Stein, founder of the gambling company Ladbrokes, was also a major supporter of the Jewish National Fund. Whilst the mainstream of British Jewry supported the ‘peace process’ in the 1990s, he funded a Jewish settlement in the West Bank.[24] Trevor Chinn inherited his substantial wealth from his father, who owned the car company Lex Services and was President of the Jewish National Fund of Britain[25] as well as joint vice president of the Joint Palestine Appeal.[26] Like Stein, Chinn was also a major donor to Labour Friends of Israel and both men used their influence there to try and block movements towards peace.[27] Gerald Ronson is a close friend of Chinn’s[28] and the founder of the Community Security Trust, an organisation which exists ostensibly to protect the Jewish community in the UK from anti-Semitic violence, but has been criticised for a lack of transparency and accountability and for including critics of Israel in its operational definition of antisemitism.[29] Ronson also founded its forerunner, the Group Relations Educational Trust, in 1978 with support from Marcus Sieff, the chairman of Marks & Spencer.[30]"

I suppose we could boycott M&S and Ladbrokes.

Given $98m so far to the pro-Israel super pac lobby...

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/adelson_sheldon

 

 

 

"He's a Zionist/neocon/right-wing Israel hawk. Much of Adelson's political activity is devoted to boosting the right-wing Israeli line, both in Israel and the U.S. He donated a posh new headquarters to AIPAC, the Israel lobby in Washington, though he reportedly feuded with the organization over activities he saw as unduly pro-Palestinian. He has given $25 million to Yad Vashem, the Israeli Holocaust memorial organization, and $100 million to Birthright, the organization that takes young American Jews on free trips to Israel to bolster their loyalty to the Jewish state. Adelson opposes a two-state solution or any accommodation of Palestinians.

When Gingrich recently stirred controversy by referring to the Palestinians as "an invented people," Adelson praised the remark to a Birthright group, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. In Israel, Adelson started a free daily newspaper known for its relentless drumbeat of support for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other right-wing politicians. The paper, Israel Hayom, has been called "the Fox News of Israel." Adelson's millions of dollars in contributions have purchased access to the highest reaches of the GOP -- during the Bush administration, for example, he hosted both President Bush and Vice President Cheney in his home -- and he has used it principally to push for a hard line on Israel. "

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/who-is-sheldon-adelson-the-gingrich-super-pacs-billionaire-backer/252003/

Edited July 23, 2014 by Park Life

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

I keep hearing that Gaza is the worlds biggest open air prison which is all down to Israel,but doesn't Gaza have a boundary with Egypt.

[Happy Face 29]

I keep hearing that Gaza is the worlds biggest open air prison which is all down to Israel,but doesn't Gaza have a boundary with Egypt.

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/22/372344/egypt-refuses-to-let-gazans-cross-border/

[Happy Face 29]

Benjamin Netanyahu addressing worldwide sympathy for the civilian victims of Israeli violence in Gaza:

 

They want to pile up as many civilian dead as they can. They use telegenically dead Palestinians for their cause. They want the more dead, the better.

 

http://forward.com/articles/202436/netanyahu-hamas-wants-to-pile-up-telegenically/

 

 

 

Joseph Goebbels addressing German sympathy for Jews forced to wear yellow stars:

 

 

The Jews gradually are having to depend more and more on themselves, and have recently found a new trick. They knew the good-natured German Michael in us, always ready to shed sentimental tears for the injustice done to them. One suddenly has the impression that the Berlin Jewish population consists only of little babies whose childish helplessness might move us, or else fragile old ladies. The Jews send out the pitiable. They may confuse some harmless souls for a while, but not us. We know exactly what the situation is.

 

Goehttp://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb1.htm