Craig 6307 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 George Galloway is claiming victory in the Bradford West by-election. If that turns out to be true, with a deeply unpopular government and a hated recent budget and the fact that it's f*cking Bradford, that's appalling news for Miliband. I really really hope its not true oh dear. oh dear indeed. Majority of almost 4,000. 10,000 more votes than the Labour candidate. Labour had a majority of almost 6000 not two years ago. It's an absolute disaster for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 I think its nearly time to emigrate. Will give it a few more years but I don't want to be hanging around as the country destroys itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I think its nearly time to emigrate. Will give it a few more years but I don't want to be hanging around as the country destroys itself. Fuck me I mean I know people think very little of rival parties but this is a bit ott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 I think its nearly time to emigrate. Will give it a few more years but I don't want to be hanging around as the country destroys itself. Fuck me I mean I know people think very little of rival parties but this is a bit ott It's not just the party in power its the whole shebang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Labour are fucked and have no talent left. The country knows this and that's why they didn't re-elect them. It's just what happens after a long time in power. The country is also pretty fucked. The public had a choice of continuing to borrow money to make pretend jobs or to realise the party was over and belts had to be tightened. The public chose well. Regardless of which party is in power we are never going to compete manufacturing wise with 3rd world wages. Yes Germany does ok but they are a totally different kettle of fish to us. Our future is all about getting the benefit bill down, wages down and as many people working as possible. This will stop the influx of cheap labour and give us a fighting chance of having a reasonable standard of living going forward. Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Anyone see him and Balls buying sausage rolls at greggs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Labour are fucked and have no talent left. The country knows this and that's why they didn't re-elect them. It's just what happens after a long time in power. The country is also pretty fucked. The public had a choice of continuing to borrow money to make pretend jobs or to realise the party was over and belts had to be tightened. The public chose well. Regardless of which party is in power we are never going to compete manufacturing wise with 3rd world wages. Yes Germany does ok but they are a totally different kettle of fish to us. Our future is all about getting the benefit bill down, wages down and as many people working as possible. This will stop the influx of cheap labour and give us a fighting chance of having a reasonable standard of living going forward. Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo. I don't think you can say 'Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo'. I can understand your point but its a bit ridiculous to dismiss everything else whatever your opinions may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5925 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Bumped into David Miliband in South Shields yesterday funnily enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38779 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 How would you feel CT, if the local authority was instructed by Dave to lower the taxi rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Labour are fucked and have no talent left. The country knows this and that's why they didn't re-elect them. It's just what happens after a long time in power. The country is also pretty fucked. The public had a choice of continuing to borrow money to make pretend jobs or to realise the party was over and belts had to be tightened. The public chose well. Regardless of which party is in power we are never going to compete manufacturing wise with 3rd world wages. Yes Germany does ok but they are a totally different kettle of fish to us. Our future is all about getting the benefit bill down, wages down and as many people working as possible. This will stop the influx of cheap labour and give us a fighting chance of having a reasonable standard of living going forward. Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo. I don't think you can say 'Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo'. I can understand your point but its a bit ridiculous to dismiss everything else whatever your opinions may be. Offer me an alternative then to future I set out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 How would you feel CT, if the local authority was instructed by Dave to lower the taxi rates? Most of us have been arguing for taxi rates to come down for the last 4 years. They are too high and were set at the height of the good times. A company like blue line which offers discounted rates is booming. Wages are a bit like house prices. Nobody really wants them to go down but lots in the private sector have realised they need to lower prices to get more work. It's basic supply and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 How would you feel CT, if the local authority was instructed by Dave to lower the taxi rates? These rates are wrong at a time when negotiations are ongoing. Parents and the public have been let down by both sides because the local authority has acted in a reckless and provocative manner. I urge both sides to put aside the rhetoric and get around the negotiating table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 While politics isn't something I prefer to get involved in, the way I see it the only reason the Conservatives are having to make unpopular cuts, etc is down to Labour fucking things up big style while they were in power. Labour are clueless and so is 'Special' Ed, I bet he wakes up every morning thinking "What shall I oppose today?". On the topic of the dumbass that set herself alight while decanting petrol, in her kitchen, next to a cooker that was turned on, I fail to see how Osborne can be blamed for the lack of common sense some idiot has. On a side note I don't think any of the current available parties have their priorities right but I see Labour as the lowest of the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 The next General Election is going to be strange. Nobody will actually want to vote for anyone. And Scotland might be on its way by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Anyone see Galloway referring to his victory as the Bradford Spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 He's an arse. As for that local election, "pro-Iraq pro-Palestine bloke in Bradford favouritism shocker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 Labour are fucked and have no talent left. The country knows this and that's why they didn't re-elect them. It's just what happens after a long time in power. The country is also pretty fucked. The public had a choice of continuing to borrow money to make pretend jobs or to realise the party was over and belts had to be tightened. The public chose well. Regardless of which party is in power we are never going to compete manufacturing wise with 3rd world wages. Yes Germany does ok but they are a totally different kettle of fish to us. Our future is all about getting the benefit bill down, wages down and as many people working as possible. This will stop the influx of cheap labour and give us a fighting chance of having a reasonable standard of living going forward. Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo. I don't think you can say 'Anyone who thinks there is a different way is talking shit or plain cuckoo'. I can understand your point but its a bit ridiculous to dismiss everything else whatever your opinions may be. Offer me an alternative then to future I set out. There are many alternatives that are out there from all sorts of standpoints, recently there has been quite a lot of new economic literature that has stemmed from an attempt transcend the current hegemonic economic system that led to the situation we are in now. My personal preference would be a system that was focused more on fairness and less on the individual. Whether that is feasible or not within the current structure is another matter but I do think it is important to keep an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 No offence to you personally cos I dont know you but that just sounds like happy clappy land. If you have an alternative that you think had a chance of winning a real election in the next five years Im all ears. Life has never and will never be fair. It is all about and always will be about survival of the fittest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38779 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 No offence to you personally cos I dont know you but that just sounds like happy clappy land. If you have an alternative that you think had a chance of winning a real election in the next five years Im all pies. Life has never and will never being fair. It is all about and always will be about survival of the fattest. tidied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26394 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 My personal preference would be a system that was focused more on fairness and less on the individual. It's called communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 No offence to you personally cos I dont know you but that just sounds like happy clappy land. If you have an alternative that you think had a chance of winning a real election in the next five years Im all ears. Life has never and will never be fair. It is all about and always will be about survival of the fittest. Well I think the aim should always be 'happy clappy' land in the long term otherwise what is the point, of anything. What defines survival of the fittest? It is such an ambiguous term. Winning an election here will rarely be anything to do with new ideas because everyone has been socialised within this system and their belief systems are so embedded in the 'status quo'. Now I'm not sure if its even possible to be objective about anything given that we all have inherent biases. However, I would like to think that there are societies and systems that we have not yet come to know that can exist and that are 'better' than the ones we know. I am not a communist, everyone knows how that went down in Russia. All I'm saying is, why cant we keep an open mind? Nothing good ever came from polemical debate. Which is why I will always try to avoid it. Anyway to finish, here is a quote from one of my favourite thinkers, Michel Foucault. The polemicist , on the other hand, proceeds encased in privileges that he possesses in advance and will never agree to question. On principle, he possesses rights authorizing him to wage war and making that struggle a just undertaking; the person he confronts is not a partner in search for the truth but an adversary, an enemy who is wrong, who is armful, and whose very existence constitutes a threat. For him, then the game consists not of recognizing this person as a subject having the right to speak but of abolishing him as interlocutor, from any possible dialogue; and his final objective will be not to come as close as possible to a difficult truth but to bring about the triumph of the just cause he has been manifestly upholding from the beginning. The polemicist relies on a legitimacy that his adversary is by definition denied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaffer 0 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 I know its hard to read, I didn't know how to change the colour. Still new to the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 CT lives in happy clappy land, he's gone his whole fucking life living with women doing all the fucking work for him while he lies about gorging on a variety of fat-inducing substances. What an absolute shambles of a man. If he'd been unfortunate enough to have been born in a 3rd world country they would have eaten him by now, moddy coddled bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 im sorry but labour has blew it they screwed this country up and people are so blind buy there antics we could all vote for the monster raving looney party haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 No offence to you personally cos I dont know you but that just sounds like happy clappy land. If you have an alternative that you think had a chance of winning a real election in the next five years Im all ears. Life has never and will never be fair. It is all about and always will be about survival of the fittest. Well I think the aim should always be 'happy clappy' land in the long term otherwise what is the point, of anything. What defines survival of the fittest? It is such an ambiguous term. Winning an election here will rarely be anything to do with new ideas because everyone has been socialised within this system and their belief systems are so embedded in the 'status quo'. Now I'm not sure if its even possible to be objective about anything given that we all have inherent biases. However, I would like to think that there are societies and systems that we have not yet come to know that can exist and that are 'better' than the ones we know. I am not a communist, everyone knows how that went down in Russia. All I'm saying is, why cant we keep an open mind? Nothing good ever came from polemical debate. Which is why I will always try to avoid it. Anyway to finish, here is a quote from one of my favourite thinkers, Michel Foucault. The polemicist , on the other hand, proceeds encased in privileges that he possesses in advance and will never agree to question. On principle, he possesses rights authorizing him to wage war and making that struggle a just undertaking; the person he confronts is not a partner in search for the truth but an adversary, an enemy who is wrong, who is armful, and whose very existence constitutes a threat. For him, then the game consists not of recognizing this person as a subject having the right to speak but of abolishing him as interlocutor, from any possible dialogue; and his final objective will be not to come as close as possible to a difficult truth but to bring about the triumph of the just cause he has been manifestly upholding from the beginning. The polemicist relies on a legitimacy that his adversary is by definition denied Foucault is like, sooo, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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