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And as I've said the issue here is consistency in the game rather than this one decision.

 

True & for what was allegedly 3 experienced officials they missed a lot.

I think the 4th official had a hand in the Tiote decision as well.

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They even mentioned it pre-match that Atkinson is not adversed to dishing out his fair share of red & yellow cards.

 

16 fouls we commited and got 4 yellow and one red, they commited 14 fouls and got fuck all, how's that work ????

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Anyone know why sunderland are the only club to put the 'A' for association in their initialism. Surely it applies to everyone? Genuinely curious

 

They're not the only ones.

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They even mentioned it pre-match that Atkinson is not adversed to dishing out his fair share of red & yellow cards.

 

Add to that not giving a foul for De Jong on Ben Arfa and not giving a blatant pen to us in the same game - he's card happy but a blatant homer with it.

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Fabregas iirc.

 

I had a bad feeling when Atkinson was named - still stupid for giving him the excuse to be his usual self though.

 

It was wasn't it, was it Atkinson or Dowd refereeing that day?

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16 fouls we commited and got 4 yellow and one red, they commited 14 fouls and got fuck all, how's that work ????

 

So every foul is the same in your book? :lol:

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Pardew seems to think it was a justified red anyway so at least we won't have a pointless appeal put in.

 

Pardew is doing the right thing saying that and not putting in an appeal - Tiote obviously needs to get his head together. But his reputation is doing him no favours and that wasn't a red.

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Agree with Chez re. the Colo sub.

As far as the red card is concerned, I look forward to a successful appeal against it.

 

Up to and beyond that, we looked comfortable.

 

Frustrating game thanks to some appalling reffing.

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If it was a red card, every match would end 8 a side. Watch it again live, ignore any replay as the ref doesnt have that, it's a yellow card at worst

Martin Atkinson is a terrible ref

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So every foul is the same in your book? :lol:

 

No, but in the name of consistency, you'd have expected a couple of yellow's out of 14 fouls, if 16 = 4 yellows and one red.

 

I can think of two Larsons kick in Shola's chest, and Gardners taking out of Santon 2nd half, which should have been yellow. Cuellar's "non foul" through the back of BA was worth a yellow by today's standards an all.

Edited by Toonpack

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Tell you what Pardew loves wind-ups doesn't he? Clearly got in a "we were much the better team and were clearly going to win before the sending off". MON will no doubt have the arse... :lol:

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No, but in the name of consistency, you'd have expected a couple of yellow's out of 14 fouls, if 16 = 4 yellows and one red.

 

I can think of two Larsons kick in Shola's chest, and Gardners taking out of Santon 2nd half, which should have been yellow. Cuellar's "non foul" through the back of BA was worth a yellow by today's standards an all.

 

I was being facetious. I agree about Larson's - agreed. Don't forget two of ours was for dissent though.

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Thanks for that insight. Any idea why they are one of few?

 

I'm guessing that at some point there'll have been a Sunderland Rugby Football Club too. SAFC probably stuck with them and it seemed wrong to drop the 'A'.

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We were the better side, they only dominated the game when the time spent down to 10 men started to sap the energy from the legs. The fact that Larsson and Cuellar didn't get booked just shows how bad Atkinson was. On the red card, I agree with Pards but if he had just given a yellow there wouldn't have been any controversy.

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Thanks for that insight. Any idea why they are one of few?

 

James Allan arrived in Sunderland from Scotland to teach at Hendon Board School in 1877. He had developed an interest in football while at Glasgow University but discovered that rugby was the predominant winter team sport in the North-East. As Roger Hutchinson points out in Into the Light (1999) "Allan uncovered a group of other teachers in the area who shared his interest in righting this wrong, and at a meeting in Norfolk Street in the October of 1879 the Sunderland and District Teachers' Association Football Club was formed."

The team originally played at Blue House Field that was close to the Hendon Board School where James Allan was employed. The captain was Robert Singleton, the headmaster of Gray School in Sunderland. Other school teachers in the side included John Graystone and Walter Chappell.

Allan and his friends rented the ground at Hendon for £10 a year. They also had to pay the travelling cost of taking a team to away games throughout the North-East. At a meeting in October 1880 they discussed the possibility of closing the club. However, it was eventually decided to raise the money by opening it up to non-teaching members. As a result the club changed its name to Sunderland Association Football Club.

As the author of Sunderland: The Official History points out: "The club was formed not by shipbuilders or miners, but by school teachers, local school master James Allan having taken the initiative in organising such a venture. More surprisingly still, the teachers not only formed the club, but made up the entire team too, and the club's original name - Sunderland and District Teachers' Association Football Club - reflected this."

At the time rugby and cricket were Sunderland's main sports. Another problem was that there were only three other football teams in the whole of County Durham. This meant that the team had to do a lot of travelling to get games. This included matches against clubs such as Sedgefield, Bishop Middleham, Ferryhill, Ovingham and Newcastle Rangers.

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MON will no doubt have the arse... :lol:

 

It's his fault they didn't look like winning it as he's got no plan b or c.

At half time Cabeye looked knackered & MON was to stupid/scared to go after the match.

The longer Sessegnon was on the pitch, the less chance they had of getting anything.

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Agree that this type of foul shouldnt result in a red card. But in this day and age it does more often than not. And players should know that, especially with a stupid twit like Atkinson around. Silly of Tiote to do that therefore imo

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With 11 men we'd have walked that game, i'd expect that that challenge to be a yellow alot more often than a red from referees, but Tiote shouldn't have given him any choice, it was a stupid tackle, but most times he'd have got off with a booking. And the mackems are every bit as shite as i've expected them to be, 60 mins against 10 men at home and you manage 2 efforts on target, one of them a deflection, they are an embarassment really.

 

I would like to know why Colo was taken off when he seemed to just have cramp as that cost us, while was on the pitch they could have played another 90 mins and i doubt they have scored.

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I would like to know why Colo was taken off when he seemed to just have cramp as that cost us, while was on the pitch they could have played another 90 mins and i doubt they have scored.

 

First game back from injury and he pulled up with cramp - probably trying to be safe than sorry - I'd rather we didn't lose him for the coming weeks.

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First game back from injury and he pulled up with cramp - probably trying to be safe than sorry - I'd rather we didn't lose him for the coming weeks.

 

Especially with Tiote out for at least 3 games.

 

edit with that in mind, Pardew better play Tiote for the next 2 European matches.

Edited by sammynb

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First game back from injury and he pulled up with cramp - probably trying to be safe than sorry - I'd rather we didn't lose him for the coming weeks.

 

Possibly, it just seemed when his number came up that he looked surprised as if to say, he was fine and hadn't indicated to the bench he was in bother, usually with cramp its always fine once you get the treatment. But it has to be said he was so far ahead of everyone on that pitch, MOTM by a mile.

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Possibly, it just seemed when his number came up that he looked surprised as if to say, he was fine and hadn't indicated to the bench he was in bother, usually with cramp its always fine once you get the treatment. But it has to be said he was so far ahead of everyone on that pitch, MOTM by a mile.

 

Physio's call perhaps?

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