Europe --- In or Out

[Renton 17907]

Interesting article on why car manufacturers are very concerned over Brexit, well researched and written. Imagine being a service provider from Sunderland and putting Nissan's future in jeopardy by voting Brexit? Sounds far fetched to me. I mean, you'd have to be an idiot to do that, right? 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-forensics-why-car-industry-is-getting-worried-11041671

 

 

Edited October 22, 2017 by Renton

[zerosum 234]

Wow it's a remainer love in on this thread 

[ewerk 26667]

Make your argument, leaver.

[zerosum 234]

haha.. I have my reasons. Which I'll keep to myself. Good luck!

[Rayvin 4964]

Cos we'll all need it!

[ewerk 26667]

 Immigrunts then.

[zerosum 234]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

 Immigrunts then.

haha. Not my main reason, but it does come into it. I guess you will also now assume I'm a racist bigot for having an opposing view   democracy huh?

[ewerk 26667]

When people are ashamed to explain their reasons then they tend not to have good reasons.

[zerosum 234]

7 minutes ago, ewerk said:

When people are ashamed to explain their reasons then they tend not to have good reasons.

I'm not ashamed. Just can't be arsed as its plainly obvious where it's going to go 

 

Edited October 23, 2017 by zerosum

[ewerk 26667]

You should never be afraid of a bit of debate. It's a good way of learning who your intellectual superiors are.  

[zerosum 234]

I've never thought of myself as intellectually superior. But thanks for the compliment.

 

 

[ewerk 26667]

I'd imagine it isn't a tag often used for leavers.

[zerosum 234]

Maybe not. I do wish you well with your inferiority struggles though.

[ewerk 26667]

 At least CT attempts to back up his views.

[Alex 30640]

1 hour ago, zerosum said:

haha. Not my main reason, but it does come into it. I guess you will also now assume I'm a racist bigot for having an opposing view   democracy huh?

You could give your reasons I suppose.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3235]

Just now, Alex said:

You could give your reasons I suppose.

 

What and have people point out how stupid they are and ruin his inflated ego?

[Alex 30640]

But he's won though. It's just a really fucking shit prize.

[zerosum 234]

Ok, not going to get in debate about it, as it seems there's far too many passionate remainers and I'm outnumbered haha..

 

But my main reason was selfish, for my own mini economy.. my business will benefit massively from leaving.

 

After that, I would like to see us take back control of our laws and be able to make decisions on our country which will benefit its residents without all the EU bureaucracy.

 

Whether that ever happens, who knows. But it wasn't going to happen by remaining.

 

/end

[Andrew 4244]

Just now, zerosum said:

Ok, not going to get in debate about it, as it seems there's far too many passionate remainers and I'm outnumbered haha..

 

But my main reason was selfish, for my own mini economy.. my business will benefit massively from leaving.

 

After that, I would like to see us take back control of our laws and be able to make decisions on our country which will benefit its residents without all the EU bureaucracy.

 

Whether that ever happens, who knows. But it wasn't going to happen by remaining.

 

/end

 

See the business one makes sense, some will benefit from it after all.

 

Then you said "take back control" and that you've no idea what will happen but at least it will be something, which is ok when you're choosing what to have for tea or something but for the nations economic and political future?

[Rayvin 4964]

4 minutes ago, zerosum said:

Ok, not going to get in debate about it, as it seems there's far too many passionate remainers and I'm outnumbered haha..

 

But my main reason was selfish, for my own mini economy.. my business will benefit massively from leaving.

 

That is an understandable reason. It comes from Thatcher-esque individualism, which is the driving force behind this country's utter shitness, but it does make rational sense.

 

Disagree on the merit or relevance of the rest though. Our laws will stay largely the same. Moreover, very rarely to Tory passed laws benefit the majority in this country.

Edited October 23, 2017 by Rayvin

[Alex 30640]

3 minutes ago, zerosum said:

Ok, not going to get in debate about it, as it seems there's far too many passionate remainers and I'm outnumbered haha..

 

But my main reason was selfish, for my own mini economy.. my business will benefit massively from leaving.

 

After that, I would like to see us take back control of our laws and be able to make decisions on our country which will benefit its residents without all the EU bureaucracy.

 

Whether that ever happens, who knows. But it wasn't going to happen by remaining.

 

/end

Aye, we'll have a lot of influence over the establishment

[zerosum 234]

1 minute ago, Andrew said:

 

See the business one makes sense, some will benefit from it after all.

 

Then you said "take back control" and that you've no idea what will happen but at least it will be something, which is ok when you're choosing what to have for tea or something but for the nations economic and political future?

I just feel it was the right time to change.

 

An opinion and vote I was entitled to have. Yet "democratic" views seem to think the opposite.

[Alex 30640]

Everybody has the right to be wrong. Quite apart from your views though, I think it was really undemocratic in many ways. Especially the fall out.

[Andrew 4244]

2 minutes ago, zerosum said:

I just feel it was the right time to change.

 

 

To what?

From what?

[Park Life 70]

The EU isn't very democratic but that isn't the main issue atm. The commission operates more like a civil service with a huge bureaucracy attached. It's more about Governance than Govt.