Tom 13918 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 A "cracking empire"? Full of blonde white families & mass graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36184 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The Beatles would have been Freiheit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18293 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Seriously, Jesus wept. One thing you have in common with Hitler CT is that neither of you like(d) reading books. There's literally hundreds of video documentaries on Hitler's life btw, as I'm sure you are aware. I can't help thinking your ignorance is feigned and pure wummery though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36184 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The second thing you have in common with him is that you're a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Seriously, Jesus wept. One thing you have in common with Hitler CT is that neither of you like(d) reading books. There's literally hundreds of video documentaries on Hitler's life btw, as I'm sure you are aware. I can't help thinking your ignorance is feigned and pure wummery though. We're not talking about Hitlers life though, we're talking about a documentary version of the "what if we lost the war" links that Tooj and PL hoyed up. If you think its wummary btw just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14185 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The second thing you have in common with him is that you're a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 747 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Presence_of_Mine_Enemies Another take on it from the master of "alternate history", Harry Turtledove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18293 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 We're not talking about Hitlers life though, we're talking about a documentary version of the "what if we lost the war" links that Tooj and PL hoyed up. If you think its wummary btw just ignore it. I was responding to your comments on what Hitler's plans were. If you want to extrapolate beyond that you're into the realms of pure fiction. So you're not going to get a serious documentary on that. But what I find distasteful is your insinuation it might have ultimately been alright. It wouldn't, it would have been a living nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36184 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Cheap Erdinger. That's all he's thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20234 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Seriously, Jesus wept. One thing you have in common with Hitler CT is that neither of you like(d) reading books. There's literally hundreds of video documentaries on Hitler's life btw, as I'm sure you are aware. I can't help thinking your ignorance is feigned and pure wummery though. Oh aye, according to Jewish law I'm as part of the tribe as they come. But Jewish law, like most religious mumbo jumbo, is a load of old bollocks innit. Edited November 22, 2013 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3323 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Luckily Hitler was a lazy arsehole with no idea about tactics an over inflated sense of self worth and a fucking morons view on man management and politics so it never came to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39272 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Cheap Erdinger. That's all he's thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12941 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 There's an episode of Hardcore History that compares Alexander the Great to Hitler and one of his points is that nobody living in Alexander's time or even in his immediate aftermath, thought he was a good man or that he had the right ideas. But, over time, his behaviour has been romanticised, in a sense, so it has had people cherry-picking the things that made him "great" and time has shone a favourable light on even the worst evil. The host suggests that, in 500 years or so time, when the world today has completely changed and this past 100 years just becomes another footnote in history, people could genuinely begin to revise Hitler's awful plans because they're so far removed from the context of the times and the afterglow of his evil. So, basically, CT, you've managed to speed up that process by 450 years because you refuse to spend a weekend watching The World At War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13918 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4297 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Luckily was a lazy arsehole with no idea about tactics an over inflated sense of self worth and a fucking morons view on man management and politics so it never came to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 I was responding to your comments on what Hitler's plans were. If you want to extrapolate beyond that you're into the realms of pure fiction. So you're not going to get a serious documentary on that. But what I find distasteful is your insinuation it might have ultimately been alright. It wouldn't, it would have been a living nightmare. 1. If you know what Hitlers ultimate plan was once the likes of us had succumbed , why not just say. 2. Took and PL have already linked to books on "what if" scenarios. If there's books out there who says no documentaries. 3. If 2 was "pure fiction", how can you be so sure it would have been a "living nightmare". We have been invaded many times during our history and while the initial invasion may well be a nightmare, as time passes things change. At one point our Northumbrian ancestors would have lived that nightmare but then later on they think "these roads are canny, that walls a good idea". As usual though you and your distaste ride in to save the day. You big jessy. It's a theoretical discussion about what life might have been like 60 years after an invasion. Get over yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 At one point our Northumbrian ancestors would have lived that nightmare but then later on they think "these roads are canny, that walls a good idea". Just had to quote this. Nevermind the holocaust; he had a knack for building walls. Someone change his name to Tannenbaum already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13918 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Christmas Tree's ignorance and abject stupidity isn't funny anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12941 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) It's a theoretical discussion about what life might have been like 60 years after an invasion. Get over yourself Aye but everyone else is coming it at it knowing what Hitler was all about and his penchant for murdering millions of people for the most hateful reason imaginable. Making the trains run on time is scant consolation if they're dropping you off at a murder camp because you happen to not be a glorious white hero like me. I mean, him. At one point our Northumbrian ancestors would have lived that nightmare but then later on they think "these roads are canny, that walls a good idea". I miss all the qualified Indian doctors but fuck me, the traffic congestion in and out of Amble has never been better. Edited November 22, 2013 by Ayatollah Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14185 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28019 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 There's an episode of Hardcore History that compares Alexander the Great to Hitler and one of his points is that nobody living in Alexander's time or even in his immediate aftermath, thought he was a good man or that he had the right ideas. But, over time, his behaviour has been romanticised, in a sense, so it has had people cherry-picking the things that made him "great" and time has shone a favourable light on even the worst evil. The host suggests that, in 500 years or so time, when the world today has completely changed and this past 100 years just becomes another footnote in history, people could genuinely begin to revise Hitler's awful plans because they're so far removed from the context of the times and the afterglow of his evil. So, basically, CT, you've managed to speed up that process by 450 years because you refuse to spend a weekend watching The World At War. Alexander the Great assimilated many of his conquered peoples and put them in positions of military power much to the disgust of his Macedonian Generals and men, (according to historical records). I don't really think Hitler's and Alexander's World's were that similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28019 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 In fact you could say that they were fuck all similarities between their two Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I just have this feeling that rounding up people and slaughtering them in an industrial process will never be "revised" to give Hitler hero status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Oh aye, according to Jewish law I'm as part of the tribe as they come. But Jewish law, like most religious mumbo jumbo, is a load of old bollocks innit. Well said Gloomy...Of course Hitler feared it as he dabbled in the dark side and went as far as to cook up a 'new mythology' for the Germans upto that point a singularly boring race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18293 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well said Gloomy...Of course Hitler feared it as he dabbled in the dark side and went as far as to cook up a 'new mythology' for the Germans upto that point a singularly boring race. "dabbled in the dark side" Just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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