Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 150,000 have signed up to vote for labour leader in last 48 hours, each paying £25. Heading for 4 million to the labour coffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Seriously? I'm actually a bit amazed about that. That said, I reckon that'll be Corbyn who benefits. Also CT, you asked why anyone would vote for Corbyn over Smith. I think at this point it's largely because the PLP have managed to make themselves more destestable than the Tories. On a personal note, I also don't think the left should get anywhere near power during Brexit. The Tories will have to go leftward to spin the whole thing in any manner of positive light I think. They'll have to spend, they'll have to drop austerity, because they need things to look like they're getting better for people. If they don't, then in 10 years time, they'll be fucked. Much like Labour were with the financial crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3989 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There's a few skeletons coming out of Smith's closet that suggest his supposed left wing credentials are a recent thing. The comments from May and budget debates in the last couple of days suggest May's change of direction is bollocks at least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I was at Pfizer the same time as him. He was UK affiliate, i was regional head office in Paris but roughly same area of the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30568 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 CT probably actually does think he's a big political nerd as well :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19883 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Well, he is big, so at least he's half right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30568 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 A nerd's an obsessive intellectual, not someone who regurgitates shit, takes pride in never having read a book. Although existing for cyber-chomps because they wouldn't say boo to a goose in reality is probably getting into the right territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I think there's a few home truths in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 That definitely describes you apart from the mis-spelling of 'bumbling spaz-faced wazzock'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34986 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'd say there are. Just the intellectual bit you're missing, you fat metal detecting tit. [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14700 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I was at Pfizer the same time as him. He was UK affiliate, i was regional head office in Paris but roughly same area of the business. Well, what are you waiting for? Spill the beans, can you confirm he had a picture of Norman Tebbit in his office?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14700 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 A nerd's an obsessive intellectual, not someone who regurgitates shit, takes pride in never having read a book. Although existing for cyber-chomps because they wouldn't say boo to a goose in reality is probably getting into the right territory. That definitely describes you apart from the mis-spelling of 'bumbling spaz-faced wazzock'. I'd say there are. Just the intellectual bit you're missing, you fat metal detecting tit. [emoji38] :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Well, what are you waiting for? Spill the beans, can you confirm he had a picture of Norman Tebbit in his office?? I cant confirm that, our time only overlapped by about 9 months and i was more on the analytical nerdy side of things. What i can say (and i cant say much about my time there) was that the head of global corporate Affairs had to leave just after Obama came into power due to his connections to the GOP and this being the US who needs a republican Head of Corporate Affairs with a Democratic President? He went on to become Chief of Staff for a very famous Republican senator, the new CEO who was ex-Macdonalds, was a strong democrat, he brokered Obamacare in Washington with PHRMA (the US Industry group who you can imagine are a bit right wing). He was eventually forced out in a bloody internal battle that was principally exacerbated by the external view that Pfizer had gone soft left in its support for Obama. Anyway, the interesting thing about the Chief of Staff, i know him quite well. He has just joined the Trump campaign..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The idea that companies worry about being 'soft left' in their corporate recruiting is rather bizarre... presumably to assist their lobbying though? Interesting post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The idea that companies worry about being 'soft left' in their corporate recruiting is rather bizarre... presumably to assist their lobbying though? Interesting post. In the US, it depends on who the President is. The CEO job is a prize, it was probably a bit glib to say that drove the reason for his sacking / ousting. The kick back from Obamacare did however contribute as the ex CEO was a champion for Obama in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Crikey, sounds like you're in an interesting line of work Chez. You must have witnessed a fair amount of these kind of power games and skullduggery. Any plans to follow Smith into the corridors of power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I know the story, i wasnt in the boardroom! I do know the CoS referred to earlier but we don't discuss politics, just business. He's the boss of my ex boss. Or was. I am involved with the European Commission and the political interface there about once a quarter (ish) but unfortunately, nothing that exciting happens in that space. Shaping policy documents with technocrats is about as sexy as it gets. We may be setting up a new agency which would fundamentally alter how new health technologies are approved by member states but that's a few years off if it ever happens. Never been a member of a political party but am a socialist at heart and a centrist in practice if that makes sense. Always voted Labour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Oh right, nice one. Still sounds like interesting work to me, and it's obviously an important field. Good luck with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6441 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 That could just as easily be a chart showing the inverse of how much the Establishment and media had attacked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3989 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Smith was the best of that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 That could just as easily be a chart showing the inverse of how much the Establishment and media had attacked them. too true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17876 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Smith was the best of that lot. True and iirc he was actually popular at the time of his death. Was a sad loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34986 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/26/labour-battle-blairites-corbynistas-conservatives-progressives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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