ewerk 26825 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) Pretty much what Gemmill and myself have said previously. He could have pushed through a raft of policies entirely unchallenged. We’re lucky that he’s as inept as he is dishonest. Edited July 12, 2022 by ewerk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Aye. He got the job because he was a pathological liar and he blew it because he was a pathological liar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30798 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) I fucking detest him but while he’s a sociopath he’s not ideologically driven (because he doesn’t have an ideology) like some of the other nutters. You could argue they wouldn’t have that majority anyway but I think loads of them could’ve got a 50 seat + majority at the last election just by making it about Corbyn and Brexit. It’s scary to think what some of the current contenders could do / would’ve done Edited July 12, 2022 by Alex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Agree. He wsn't a co-author of Brittania Unchained for starters. Truss, Raab, Kwarteng, and Patel were. That book chills me, because despite being atrociously written, it gives insight into their vile idealogy. Truth is, Johnson could have probably prospered in New Labour. He is an utter chameleon without any personal idealogy or ethics at all. See also Trump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3643 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Looks to me like it is going to be Mordaunt. I honestly don't know much about her. Seen she wants to continue the woke agenda and is a massive brexiter. Also am I supposed to be impressed she was a navy reservist? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Renton said: Looks to me like it is going to be Mordaunt. I honestly don't know much about her. Seen she wants to continue the woke agenda and is a massive brexiter. Also am I supposed to be impressed she was a navy reservist? It'll be interesting to see which way the Hunt/Tugendhat/Javid etc people break when their candidate falls away. I still think it's Mordaunt or Truss vs Sunak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Jesus that's terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: It'll be interesting to see which way the Hunt/Tugendhat/Javid etc people break when their candidate falls away. I still think it's Mordaunt or Truss vs Sunak. Yeah, I think either of the (white) women would beat a (brown) man when it comes to the final hurdle. Edited July 12, 2022 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I still think it's Mordaunt or Truss vs Sunak. If she's got the backing of JRM & Dorries, I hope to fuck it isn't Truss. I imagine that's who Johnson is getting behind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Craig said: If she's got the backing of JRM & Dorries, I hope to fuck it isn't Truss. I imagine that's who Johnson is getting behind as well. Truss is the one I'm most confident Starmer will beat. She's a fucking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3643 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Now that Priti and Shapps have dropped out its a straight fight between Truss and Braverman for who is the dimmest. Truss also just trumps Javid for worst public speaker so I'm backing Liz Liz Liz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17092 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Renton said: Looks to me like it is going to be Mordaunt. I honestly don't know much about her. Seen she wants to continue the woke agenda and is a massive brexiter. Also am I supposed to be impressed she was a navy reservist? Likes muff diving? /MF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Truss is the one I'm most confident Starmer will beat. She's a fucking idiot. There is that, yes. I'm just trying to minimise the hell between now and the next GE. Truss to me is the nearest in principle to Johnson, and I think those who have come out to back here are demonstrative of that. There definitely needs to be a change in approach from those fucking mongs long before the next GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Aye in terms of what would be best for the country, I think it probably is Sunak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Craig said: There is that, yes. I'm just trying to minimise the hell between now and the next GE. Truss to me is the nearest in principle to Johnson, and I think those who have come out to back here are demonstrative of that. There definitely needs to be a change in approach from those fucking mongs long before the next GE. truss is noticeably opportunistic like. From a vocal remainer to absolute screaming gammon headbanger overnight. I am absolutely confident personally though that Starmer can eviscerate every last one of these cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Aye in terms of what would be best for the country, I think it probably is Sunak. Of all of them or just your final 3? Tugenhat might offer something else I think. Not much else mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renton said: Of all of them or just your final 3? Tugenhat might offer something else I think. Not much else mind. Aye I excluded him cos he's got no chance. At least Sunak is trying to be the adult in the room about tax cuts. That was my main reason for saying he'd be the best of a bad bunch for the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18051 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Aye I excluded him cos he's got no chance. At least Sunak is trying to be the adult in the room about tax cuts. That was my main reason for saying he'd be the best of a bad bunch for the country. Maybe. Probably still saving his cuts for just before the GE. The tories have done a hell of a job on the economy like. Twelve years of paiful austerity and yet national debt has tripled whilst taxes are their highest ever. Quite outstandng work how they still convince people they are best for the economy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26825 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Sunak is definitely a fan of more austerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17092 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hasn't Sunak had a chance for tax cuts before, being Chancellor like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Yeah they're all cunts. When I say adult in the room about Sunak, I mainly just mean he will avoid making immediate inflationary tax cuts. All of the rest of them are blithely promising tax cuts with ZERO understanding of the impact. Just because that's what fuck heads want to hear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Of those in the contest, Tugendhat is the best option, but I agree he's unlike to get beyond the 2nd round. Of the 3 being mentioned, I can't fucking stand Truss or Sunak so I'm tending to lean towards Mordaunt, but the reality is I don't know enough about her. What a fucking turgid mess they've got this country into in the last 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 These results are a bit weird cos they've got Badenoch absolutely beasting Sunak, but if this is to be believed the only run-offs he can win are the run-offs that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35569 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: These results are a bit weird cos they've got Badenoch absolutely beasting Sunak, but if this is to be believed the only run-offs he can win are the run-offs that won't happen. Even Braverman howks him I've gone back and quoted myself cos I'd last-paged myself and friends don't do that to friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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