ewerk 26413 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Except conference won't decide that and he knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Labour are now denying that he said this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: 1. Fight fire with fire. 2. Did the BBC at any point make that clear, prior to taking it down? 3. Who cares, it's made the video even more visible. Also, there’s a million miles between changing the name of your twitter account to look like a fact checking organisation (which is straight out of the Trump hand book) and individuals suggesting a news organisation deleted something because they have an agenda (not unreasonable given the way the BBC have been going on recently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Labour are now denying that he said this His answer doesn't make sense. It's like he thinks she was accusing him of being an anti-semite rather than Labour. Clearly there is anti-semitism in the Labour Party and for him to simply deny it is bizarre. But becoming defensive and seeing it as a personal attack is the best suggestion I have to rationalise his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 jesus, what a car crash. talentless politicians on all sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Alex said: Also, there’s a million miles between changing the name of your twitter account to look like a fact checking organisation (which is straight out of the Trump hand book) and individuals suggesting a news organisation deleted something because they have an agenda (not unreasonable given the way the BBC have been going on recently). yes, i agree it's not as cynical a move by momentum - i didn't imply otherwise. i just pointed out they were quick to try to establish a narrative, which many buy into, by implying BBC bias, before the beeb had the time/chance to respond as to why they took it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I think Gyimah is a cunt but I've got some sympathy for him there. That bloke was being a bellend AND he said renegated instead of reneged so he's not as fucking clever as he thinks he is either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bloody hell. I mean, that's some detailed, savage interviewing. That guy on the phone is relentless. I find myself wishing he would turn onto the Tories as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Ultimately this is the consequence of the Lib Dems promising things that they know they'll never have to deliver on. Nothing new really. Labour have to be far more robust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26413 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 There's no way that guy on the phone wanted to vote Lib Dem. He was just being a prick. At the same time Gyimah went onto a national phone in absolutely unprepared. Every politician doing media should have a pack in front of them with key figures and should know them inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 How many more lies and U-turns on ideals can we stomach? There's still 3 weeks to fucking go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The Tories have released a site titled "labourmanifesto.co.uk" full of disinformation about Labour's manifesto, and are paying for it to appear high up Google's search results as people look for the actual thing. They've absolutely gone full Trump now. It's shameless. They've decided that in general, the population of the country is as cynical and coldhearted as they are, and they're just going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: How many more lies and U-turns on ideals can we stomach? There's still 3 weeks to fucking go! Yep, 3 weeks before the last chance we get to save the country from becoming an absolute hellhole. And honestly, I'm not even sure I mean Brexit anymore. I'm starting to think that even as bad as leaving the EU might be, the Tories are now so openly shitting on poor people that they may in fact be worse than Brexit all on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Yep, 3 weeks before the last chance we get to save the country from becoming an absolute hellhole. And honestly, I'm not even sure I mean Brexit anymore. I'm starting to think that even as bad as leaving the EU might be, the Tories are now so openly shitting on poor people that they may in fact be worse than Brexit all on their own. That appearance by Boris near the Transporter bridge yesterday was embarrassing like, they definitely paid that working class, overall clad smoggy to say he was voting Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 are you sure? are you talking about the one who concluded the awkward change by saying "get them out"? (the implication being the foreigners who couldn't''t afford dog licenses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38783 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel PM charged with corruption https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50508399 Please Jezza, just keep schtum for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I couldn't avoid posting this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel PM charged with corruption https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50508399 Please Jezza, just keep schtum for now. Corrupshtein! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Not only did he not say it, he didn't "bellow" it as the article originally stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Unfortunately it's in the print version and no doubt the correction tomorrow will be buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: yes, i agree it's not as cynical a move by momentum - i didn't imply otherwise. i just pointed out they were quick to try to establish a narrative, which many buy into, by implying BBC bias, before the beeb had the time/chance to respond as to why they took it down. Don’t remember referring to you. Obviously a guilty conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Not only did he not say it, he didn't "bellow" it as the article originally stated. Oh for fucks sake, seriously? The utter bastards. I've tried to be way more restrained on the press in recent months but seriously this is getting ridiculous now. Edited November 21, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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