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21 minutes ago, Asprilla said:


I think he rightly points out that America contributes proportionately more to an entity that is of potentially far more benefit to others than to the US itself.

 

 

 

I think this is to misunderstand the US and Trump to an extent. Yes, the US doesn't need to be militarily supporting countries all over the world - it does so as part of a soft power initiative to tie these states to the US in terms of culture. And it has been very successful with this. And has benefited hugely in terms of being the sole global superpower with all the benefits that come with that.

 

Trump is an isolationist and didn't care for the internationalist vision of the US that it had spend decades cultivating - so he saw no value in this soft power. Thus, for him it just came down to collective security - but make no mistake, the US reaps many benefits outside of that for being the global policeman. We are all, in effect, living in an American empire.

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17 minutes ago, Asprilla said:


How is he a gangster?

 

He heads a white collar crime syndicate. His links via his first attorney Roy Cohn to New York crime families in the 70s and 80s are well documented. That empire built Trump tower and his casinos. When that empire crashed and left him bankrupt he went to Russia and helped to launder billions of dollars in US  property deals and real estate for Russians who stole all the Russian peoples' money in the early 90s. His reality TV show gave him a public profile that appealed to a certain constituency which led to him running for president.  Which led rise to the title of this book, which explains it all...

 

https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/sarah-kendzior/hiding-in-plain-sight/9781250210715?gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3KvWYXrkn5R2x-7PXLemJ5Jo7BJZ_mSHbhTCVb4Ko7-lirL6G_xrkhoCnUkQAvD_BwE

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dan roan reporting that Fifa set to follow the IOC in banning Russia. this is almost as big as the sanctions - it's the sort of thing that will resonate with russian people and potentially lead to things turning nasty for putin. i'm surprised tbh. i didn't think fifa would have the minerals for it, given their recent history. 

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1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

dan roan reporting that Fifa set to follow the IOC in banning Russia. this is almost as big as the sanctions - it's the sort of thing that will resonate with russian people and potentially lead to things turning nasty for power. i'm surprised tbh. i didn't think fifa would have the minerals for it, given their recent history. 

 

As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. 

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7 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. 

 

Aye, there were a number of teams saying they'd boycott any fixture again Russia so they've basically forced FIFA into this. The PR of docking anyone points for refusing to play would have been terrible.

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15 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. 

Sponsors is the word you’re looking for 

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2 hours ago, Asprilla said:

I agree… just pointing out that’s it’s a “funny” reversal.

Are you comparing the EU to the Soviet Union and the repatriation of Ukraine to Brexit?

 

This is just utter nonsense even by your weird standard.

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4 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

Are you comparing the EU to the Soviet Union and the repatriation of Ukraine to Brexit?

 

This is just utter nonsense even by your weird standard.


No, just a wry observation.

 

 

I bet there isn’t a German word for wry btw :lol:

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1 hour ago, Rayvin said:

 

I think this is to misunderstand the US and Trump to an extent. Yes, the US doesn't need to be militarily supporting countries all over the world - it does so as part of a soft power initiative to tie these states to the US in terms of culture. And it has been very successful with this. And has benefited hugely in terms of being the sole global superpower with all the benefits that come with that.

 

Trump is an isolationist and didn't care for the internationalist vision of the US that it had spend decades cultivating - so he saw no value in this soft power. Thus, for him it just came down to collective security - but make no mistake, the US reaps many benefits outside of that for being the global policeman. We are all, in effect, living in an American empire.


Of the choices on offer, an American empire is the best though.

 

Also Trump was the least aggressive president I can remember militarily.

 

 

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