Asprilla 96 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:50, ewerk said: How much more does the US contribute? Expand You don’t think it’s true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6613 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:32, Asprilla said: I think he rightly points out that America contributes proportionately more to an entity that is of potentially far more benefit to others than to the US itself. Expand I think this is to misunderstand the US and Trump to an extent. Yes, the US doesn't need to be militarily supporting countries all over the world - it does so as part of a soft power initiative to tie these states to the US in terms of culture. And it has been very successful with this. And has benefited hugely in terms of being the sole global superpower with all the benefits that come with that. Trump is an isolationist and didn't care for the internationalist vision of the US that it had spend decades cultivating - so he saw no value in this soft power. Thus, for him it just came down to collective security - but make no mistake, the US reaps many benefits outside of that for being the global policeman. We are all, in effect, living in an American empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34704 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:52, Asprilla said: You don’t think it’s true? Expand I’m not saying it’s not true. I’m just asking how much you think the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19963 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:51, Asprilla said: How is he a gangster? Expand He heads a white collar crime syndicate. His links via his first attorney Roy Cohn to New York crime families in the 70s and 80s are well documented. That empire built Trump tower and his casinos. When that empire crashed and left him bankrupt he went to Russia and helped to launder billions of dollars in US property deals and real estate for Russians who stole all the Russian peoples' money in the early 90s. His reality TV show gave him a public profile that appealed to a certain constituency which led to him running for president. Which led rise to the title of this book, which explains it all... https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/sarah-kendzior/hiding-in-plain-sight/9781250210715?gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3KvWYXrkn5R2x-7PXLemJ5Jo7BJZ_mSHbhTCVb4Ko7-lirL6G_xrkhoCnUkQAvD_BwE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24476 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 looks like the bantz was flying in this meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7619 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34704 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24476 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) dan roan reporting that Fifa set to follow the IOC in banning Russia. this is almost as big as the sanctions - it's the sort of thing that will resonate with russian people and potentially lead to things turning nasty for putin. i'm surprised tbh. i didn't think fifa would have the minerals for it, given their recent history. Edited February 28, 2022 by Dr Gloom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53493 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 14:56, trophyshy said: Any guesses? Expand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53493 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:17, Dr Gloom said: dan roan reporting that Fifa set to follow the IOC in banning Russia. this is almost as big as the sanctions - it's the sort of thing that will resonate with russian people and potentially lead to things turning nasty for power. i'm surprised tbh. i didn't think fifa would have the minerals for it, given their recent history. Expand As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16895 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 14:56, trophyshy said: Any guesses? Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46829 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 12:15, Asprilla said: Expand I’m going to assume you’re posting this tongue-in-cheek. Because you can’t be that thick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53493 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Getting your news from Facebook ftw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46829 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 14:56, trophyshy said: Any guesses? Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34704 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:19, Gemmill said: As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. Expand Aye, there were a number of teams saying they'd boycott any fixture again Russia so they've basically forced FIFA into this. The PR of docking anyone points for refusing to play would have been terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38165 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:19, Gemmill said: As recently as yesterday it was being reported that they would be allowed to continue their qualification campaign for the WC. Presumably they've had some feedback from participating nations or something. Expand Sponsors is the word you’re looking for 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10801 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:33, Asprilla said: I agree… just pointing out that’s it’s a “funny” reversal. Expand Are you comparing the EU to the Soviet Union and the repatriation of Ukraine to Brexit? This is just utter nonsense even by your weird standard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10801 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Putin has even achieved for the Suisse to abandon neutrality. He really is the CT of world politics in getting things spectacularly wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:22, Monkeys Fist said: I’m going to assume you’re posting this tongue-in-cheek. Because you can’t be that thick. Expand Yes, it’s a gag post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:45, Isegrim said: Are you comparing the EU to the Soviet Union and the repatriation of Ukraine to Brexit? This is just utter nonsense even by your weird standard. Expand No, just a wry observation. I bet there isn’t a German word for wry btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10801 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:52, Asprilla said: No, just a wry observation. I bet there isn’t a German word for wry btw Expand What you call a “wry observation” is called humbug in German tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46829 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:49, Asprilla said: Yes, it’s a gag post Expand Of course it was… … how “ironisch” of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 13:56, Rayvin said: I think this is to misunderstand the US and Trump to an extent. Yes, the US doesn't need to be militarily supporting countries all over the world - it does so as part of a soft power initiative to tie these states to the US in terms of culture. And it has been very successful with this. And has benefited hugely in terms of being the sole global superpower with all the benefits that come with that. Trump is an isolationist and didn't care for the internationalist vision of the US that it had spend decades cultivating - so he saw no value in this soft power. Thus, for him it just came down to collective security - but make no mistake, the US reaps many benefits outside of that for being the global policeman. We are all, in effect, living in an American empire. Expand Of the choices on offer, an American empire is the best though. Also Trump was the least aggressive president I can remember militarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24476 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:49, Asprilla said: Yes, it’s a gag post Expand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46829 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 15:56, Asprilla said: Also Trump was the least aggressive president I can remember militarily. Expand Who, Bonespurs? Fancy that… why would he fight his paymasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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