Kid Dynamite 5912 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Polarboy said: It's classic whataboutism, and a very poor example of it to boot, with regard to US, Saudi judicial comparisons. It’s not though. Whataboutism implies the Saudi’s are getting unjust criticism. They aren’t. They deserve all the criticism they get. My point, supported with evidence, is that the media pick and choose their narrative from a fake position of virtue when, as coherently pointed out by Fist, Boris and Trump are on the same spectrum of cuntishness yet escape criticism by vast swathes of the media Edited April 22, 2020 by Kid Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, tooner said: well go on then... Spoiler NSFRayvin. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On the positive, absolutely none of the above sounds like a bunch of Newcastle fans trying to defend Saudi Arabia. Think we'll be fine on the sportswashing front tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: It’a not though. Whataboutism implies the Saudi’s are getting unjust criticism. They aren’t. They deserve all the criticism they get. My point, supported with evidence, is that the media pick and choose their narrative from a fake position of virtue when, as coherently pointed out but Fist, Boris and Trump are on the same spectrum of cuntishness yet escape criticism by vast swathes of the media Well said, fancy a pint? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26351 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 In the Labour Club? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2124 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: It’s not though. Whataboutism implies the Saudi’s are getting unjust criticism. They aren’t. They deserve all the criticism they get. My point, supported with evidence, is that the media pick and choose their narrative from a fake position of virtue when, as coherently pointed out by Fist, Boris and Trump are on the same spectrum of cuntishness yet escape criticism by vast swathes of the media It's the definition of whataboutism, as in focusing on someone else’s misconduct implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless. And I'd like to see where you'd place Saudi on this spectrum, who are literally still medieval in comparison to the west, to admittedly flawed Western democracies. Edited April 22, 2020 by Polarboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5912 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Polarboy said: It's the definition of whataboutism, as in focusing on someone else’s misconduct implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless. And I'd like to see where you'd place Saudi who are literally still medieval in comparison to the west, to admittedly flawed Western democracies. You need to check your definitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Polarboy said: It's the definition of whataboutism, as in focusing on someone else’s misconduct implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless. And I'd like to see where you'd place Saudi who are literally still medieval in comparison to the west, to admittedly flawed Western democracies. Top of the League. I like the sound of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4220 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Polarboy said: It's the definition of whataboutism, as in focusing on someone else’s misconduct implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless. And I'd like to see where you'd place Saudi who are literally still medieval in comparison to the west, to admittedly flawed Western democracies. That isn't what happening. The post you've quoted literally says Quote Whataboutism implies the Saudi’s are getting unjust criticism. They aren’t. They deserve all the criticism they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2124 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: You need to check your definitions https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whataboutism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5912 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 And I’ve said that all criticism of Saudi Arabia is invalid where...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5912 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Anyway.... Are there any suggestions as to how we make the Saudi’s fall in love with the region and use that influence to put political pressure on the Saudi government to stop murdering journalists and the like? Edited April 22, 2020 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Anyway.... Are there any suggestions as to how we make the Saudi’s fall in love with the region and use that influence to put political pressure on the Saudi government to stop murdering journalists and the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4220 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13847 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Imagine riding a camel across that fucker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2124 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: And I’ve said that all criticism of Saudi Arabia is invalid where...? My comment was in response to however many posts there were from you and others trying to draw false equivalences between the US and Saudi. And if you read my comment properly you'd see that the logical fallacy you were trying to bring people to was that because "no one is blameless" we're all in the muck. So yes you didn't say criticism was invalid, but that doesn't refute my point on the basis of whataboutism's definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Imagine riding a camel across that fucker In the interest of science, and lolz, I now have the phrase “camel on the tyne bridge” in my search history Far from the worst thing in there, but cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26351 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Monkeys Fist said: In the interest of science, and lolz, I now have the phrase “camel on the tyne bridge” in my search history Far from the worst thing in there, but cheers Google: ‘Did you mean ‘camel toe on the Tyne’? You filthy pervert’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Pochetoono, more like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2124 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Pochettino is a very good manager who's great at developing young players, but if we're going for the best I'd be a bit worried about how his tenure at Spurs ended. I mean maybe it was more a case of him not being given the funds needed to take them to the next level, and it going stale with certain players trying to jump ship. And perhaps he was a victim of his success in terms of getting very close to winning things and not, but I do have a slight doubt about his temperament. Edited April 22, 2020 by Polarboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 2113 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andrew said: Every time i see a picture of the Tyne Bridge my heart just beats that little bit faster It makes me so proud to be a Geordie Arab owners of our club or not, I love Newcastle, the city the people, the buildings the culture the way we talk...and well just every thing about the place. It is with out doubt the best place in the world to be from. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38768 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Google: ‘Did you mean ‘camel toe on the Tyne’? You filthy pervert’ That’d be ancient history for my interwebs searches, tbh. I like a far more sophisticated ( depraved) type of grot these days Anyway, all this talk of medieval regimes killing people has got me quite stressed- I’m off to relax by killing the absolute fuck out of anything that moves in Assassins Creed Odyssey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4220 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Pochetoono, more like. "Uncertain future" Steve bruces future is probably the most certain thing in the world in its current state. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5912 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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