RobinRobin 13257 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: i understand why the club sets a valuation on each target. if we spunked £60m on pedro then £60m on elanga it blows a massive hole in our budget. i'm sure they're also aware that PL wingers are pricey and that they are unlikely to prize away some of the players we've been linked with for less than the £60m they have ended up going for. chelsea got him because they stumped up the asking price (yes, there are other issues such as wages/attractiveness, already discussed) but if we can't afford the type of PL player howe wants, i hope we don't piss about all summer with lowball offers, like we did with guehi last year, and move on to more affordable/realistic targets. Perhaps the low ball offers were based on the hope of PSR bargains. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 8081 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Honestly some of you need to take a breath and perhaps read back on how you've conducted yourselves especially over the last 5 pages or so. Chill the fuck out, man! Joao Pedro might well end up at Chelsea (not confirmed as yet). If he doesn't end up here it'll be for one of a number of reasons: We were never in for him. We weren't prepare to pay the fee / wages for him He wasn't interested in coming here. Was probably the first one and his agent using our name to bump up the price. In Eddie we trust - if he was the right fit, he'd be coming here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8149 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, RobinRobin said: Perhaps the low ball offers were based on the hope of PSR bargains. Today is the day we are taking advantage of other clubs PSR woes apparently, and that's why we have been keeping our powder dry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8149 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Craig said: Honestly some of you need to take a breath and perhaps read back on how you've conducted yourselves especially over the last 5 pages or so. Chill the fuck out, man! Joao Pedro might well end up at Chelsea (not confirmed as yet). If he doesn't end up here it'll be for one of a number of reasons: We were never in for him. We weren't prepare to pay the fee / wages for him He wasn't interested in coming here. Was probably the first one and his agent using our name to bump up the price. In Eddie we trust - if he was the right fit, he'd be coming here. If you genuinely believe point 1 then we are in Mackem delusional territory 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 20237 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Villa don't have any PSR issues but they're selling the women's team to themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 11276 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Villa don't have any PSR issues but they're selling the women's team to themselves huge crowd at that game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 24493 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Villa don't have any PSR issues but they're selling the women's team to themselves I honestly think that could be a nail on the coffin for me and football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53720 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I honestly think that could be a nail on the coffin for me and football Mate you can still go and watch your beloved Villa Women's team. They've just got a new daddy now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 3268 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) To me it looks like we want Premier League players but we're unwilling to pay the Premier League tax. No one has any clue on what is really going on behind the scenes but we do know that Eddie stated he wanted to move fast which, for one reason or another, clearly hasn't happened. I'm not arsed about Pedro going to Chelsea to warm their bench whilst collecting massive wages and time will tell whether it was agent games or genuine interest that linked us with him in the first place but the next few days will be very telling. Trafford should be the easiest link to conclude and we'll see if it's one where we, once again, put in tiny incremental bids that fall short of the asking price or if we pay what Burnley want to get our man. Similarly for Elanga, given the player supposedly wants the move. Although, as Forest don't need to sell, I can see that one being one we eventually give up on. Hopefully we've a list of targets from abroad that fall within our price range as the "buy Premiership proven" strategy isn't working out too well for the 3rd (or is 4th now) window running. Edited 7 hours ago by MrBass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 24493 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Hotel at the weekend had 4 brummies in. Fuck me. Dull sounding cunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 3268 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I honestly think that could be a nail on the coffin for me and football Here you go Wykiki, that should soften the blow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 8081 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: If you genuinely believe point 1 then we are in Mackem delusional territory Do you have it on absolute authority we'd made an approach, or are you going on the words of a few journos? I don't know either way, but carry on having your mental gymnastics about every transfer rumour we get dragged into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53720 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Wouldn't fancy getting pegged off that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 38918 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, MrBass said: Here you go Wykiki, that should soften the blow. "You have a woman's bottom!" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24676 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, David Kelly said: Totally agree we can't waste time with offers that aren't going to be accepted but I'm not sure that was the case here. It seems the player always wanted to go to London and it seems to me that we've been used as bait to get Chelsea to make the move. yeah, could well be the case. i personally wish him nothing but bad luck after he snubbed us for a second time. i don't see why chelsea are so attractive beyond the wages they they offer and i suppose the lure of living in london. they've already got so many attacking players, the odds of being a regular starter there aren't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24676 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Craig said: Do you have it on absolute authority we'd made an approach, or are you going on the words of a few journos? I don't know either way, but carry on having your mental gymnastics about every transfer rumour we get dragged into. could well be agent talk, who knows? but romano reckons we had two bids rejected and he is one of the more reliable transfer hacks plus joao pedro is a player we've been heavily linked with before so howe clearly likes him. it sounds credible. i completely trust eddie but if the rumours are to be believed we are struggling to meet the valuations for the PL-proven players he seems to have targeted this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24676 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 46 minutes ago, MrBass said: To me it looks like we want Premier League players but we're unwilling to pay the Premier League tax. No one has any clue on what is really going on behind the scenes but we do know that Eddie stated he wanted to move fast which, for one reason or another, clearly hasn't happened. I'm not arsed about Pedro going to Chelsea to warm their bench whilst collecting massive wages and time will tell whether it was agent games or genuine interest that linked us with him in the first place but the next few days will be very telling. Trafford should be the easiest link to conclude and we'll see if it's one where we, once again, put in tiny incremental bids that fall short of the asking price or if we pay what Burnley want to get our man. Similarly for Elanga, given the player supposedly wants the move. Although, as Brentford don't need to sell, I can see that one being one we eventually give up on. Hopefully we've a list of targets from abroad that fall within our price range as the "buy Premiership proven" strategy isn't working out too well for the 3rd (or is 4th now) window running. elanga is going to cost £60m, i reckon. it seems unlikely forest will let him go for less given that's how much every other PL attacker seems to have gone for this window and they don't have to sell. it's exactly like us slapping a £150m fee on isak. they're under no pressure to sell him for less so it depends on how much eddie wants him. i have my doubts that elanga is a £60m player but you have to defer to sir eddie. and at least with this one it sounds like the player wants the move - some of his social media posts haven't exactly been subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53720 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I'd be fucking livid if I was Howe like. Pre season starts on Monday and we're still offering Burnley 60% of their stated asking price for Trafford. If Chelsea wanted Pedro, us meeting Brighton's valuation or not is irrelevant, cos they would have come in and gazumped us anyway - wages, London, and the player's apparent preference would have fucked us anyway. But we appear to have a clear run at Trafford, he wants to come, and we are dicking about on price. If we don't make Burnley an offer they can't refuse, they'll keep refusing it and keep a hold of a lad that gives them a better chance of staying up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24676 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I'd be fucking livid if I was Howe like. Pre season starts on Monday and we're still offering Burnley 60% of their stated asking price for Trafford. If Chelsea wanted Pedro, us meeting Brighton's valuation or not is irrelevant, cos they would have come in and gazumped us anyway - wages, London, and the player's apparent preference would have fucked us anyway. But we appear to have a clear run at Trafford, he wants to come, and we are dicking about on price. If we don't make Burnley an offer they can't refuse, they'll keep refusing it and keep a hold of a lad that gives them a better chance of staying up. romano tweeted this morning that it's close to being done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 8081 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Dr Gloom said: could well be agent talk, who knows? but romano reckons we had two bids rejected and he is one of the more reliable transfer hacks plus joao pedro is a player we've been heavily linked with before so howe clearly likes him. it sounds credible. i completely trust eddie but if the rumours are to be believed we are struggling to meet the valuations for the PL-proven players he seems to have targeted this time. I take what Romano says with a pinch of salt tbh. He's evidently got some things right, but not everything. I retract what I said earlier. I think we most likely did express an interest but if the player currently playing on the south coast doesn't want to relocate to the North East for one reason or another, that's his prerogative. I don't find the need to wish ill of him because he doesn't have a burning desire to join my club. As for Chelsea - I think they'll offer a challenge to the title this year - more so than Arsenal. Them qualifying for the CL was massive and I think they'll push on further, much to my annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 8081 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: elanga is going to cost £60m, i reckon. it seems unlikely forest will let him go for less given that's how much every other PL attacker seems to have gone for this window and they don't have to sell. it's exactly like us slapping a £150m fee on isak. they're under no pressure to sell him for less so it depends on how much eddie wants him. i have my doubts that elanga is a £60m player but you have to defer to sir eddie. and at least with this one it sounds like the player wants the move - some of his social media posts haven't exactly been subtle. He was always going to cost £60m because it's what he's worth in today's game. When the bid of £45m was mentioned the immediate reaction of anyone was it's at least £15m short. If he was our player and had a season like he's just had, there's no way we'd entertain any bid south of £60m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 8262 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I’m not panicking but we’ve clearly wasted a lot of time on Pedro and possibly Elanga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6709 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I still wonder if the club has more ducks lined up than we think and is just waiting for the PSR deadline to pass. At least I desperately hope that's it. If not then IMO what has held us back this summer has been chaos in the boardroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53720 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: romano tweeted this morning that it's close to being done Geordie Journos: "I think he's a tit, me like" He can SWIVEL. All of our transfer deals are completed 72 hours BEFORE we put a shit interview with the new player up on our social media. When that video is posted, only THEN can we have a t+3 HERE WE GO party, and not a moment before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10918 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago It’s Jimbo‘s telly or nothing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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