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Aye Man City were allowed to spend their milllions/billions. Now they've climbed to the summit they have everything in place to carry on and be untouched by the rest.

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1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

it hasn't really hindered man city though, has it? you were able to spend your oil millions before the proper punishments came in snd are now closing in on a fourth successive title.

 

we have the richest owners in the world but they are being denied the chance to grow their club the same way that man city and chelsea owners were able to because of the bullshit psr rules. 

 

 

i think there's a point where wealth becomes irrelevant as there is only so much that you can spend on players.  for example no one is going to spend 2.5 billion which i think is a 25 man squad of 100 million players. Except maybe Chelsea.

 

Just as you are a magnitude richer than us, so we are a magnitude richer than Chelsea. Yet they routinely outbid us for players.

 

Recruitment is simple for us. We have a price. It's either accepted or it isn't. If not we move on. Declan Rice wanted to hear what Arsenal were offering so we didn't raise our bid as he didn't want us enough. Its a recurring story.

 

We are lucky as we raced to get over that drawbridge just as the cartel were pulling it up. Remains to be seen if we did it legally.

 

On that point (according to the itk crowd) City know the outcome is favourable and are preparing their response. 

City are known to have been in contact with lawyers regarding libel in the media and again supposedly warnings have been sent to various entities.

It's interesting that City continue to invest heavily. Building work on the stadium & hotel are well under way. Odd behavior for someone guilty. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

Aye Man City were allowed to spend their milllions/billions. Now they've climbed to the summit they have everything in place to carry on and be untouched by the rest.

 

under psr rules spending was linked to revenue. now that city have broken revenue records they're linking spend to something we can't affect. same old cartel, always cheating.

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24 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

under psr rules spending was linked to revenue. now that city have broken revenue records they're linking spend to something we can't affect. same old cartel, always cheating.


I was looking at that the other day. City £800+ mill  in commercial revenue last year. Where are they getting it from and how does it pass the fair market value thing?… 

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didn't etihad give them £500m for a stadium naming rights or something? which was more than five times what arsenal got from emirates - if i remember correctly wenger kicked up a fuss at the time because he could see where things were going - arsenal can't compete with that. 

 

we are being denied the same opportunity. aramco could sponsor st james for 3bn tomorrow but there is no way the greedy six are going to let another chelsea or man city join the club. 

 

it'll be interesting to see whether man city are able to negotiate another massive namig rights deal under new FMV rules, as the first deal with etihad clearly blew FMW under water.

 

it's probably why they haven't done a naing rights deal on st james' yet. they're waiting for this shite to blow over before trying to get the most they can without the greedy shites stopping us. 

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16 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:


I was looking at that the other day. City £800+ mill  in commercial revenue last year. Where are they getting it from and how does it pass the fair market value thing?… 

 

i think it's £712 million rather than 800. the question i would ask, is how does it fail ?

 

all our annual reports going back 10 years are on the city website here https://www.mancity.com/club/annual-reports

 

but you probably want to see page 33 of this pdf https://www.mancity.com/annualreport2023/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/manchester-city_financial-report_2022-23.pdf

 

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4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

didn't etihad give them £500m for a stadium naming rights or something? which was more than five times what arsenal got from emirates - if i remember correctly wenger kicked up a fuss at the time because he could see where things were going - arsenal can't compete with that. 

 

we are being denied the same opportunity. aramco could sponsor st james for 3bn tomorrow but there is no way the greedy six are going to let another chelsea or man city join the club. 

 

it'll be interesting to see whether man city are able to negotiate another massive namig rights deal under new FMV rules, as the first deal with etihad clearly blew FMW under water.

 

it's probably why they haven't done a naing rights deal on st james' yet. they're waiting for this shite to blow over before trying to get the most they can without the greedy shites stopping us. 

 

if you take etihad out of the equation, our revenue is still greater than Man U.  let that sink in a moment 🙂

 

etihad stadium naming rights is significant but at £15m a year it hardly explains the £712m.  Etihad also sponsor our shirt and other stuff. . source

 

guess the answer for city is to keep extending the existing naming rights deal.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

if you take etihad out of the equation, our revenue is still greater than Man U.  let that sink in a moment 🙂

 

etihad stadium naming rights is significant but at £15m a year it hardly explains the £712m.  Etihad also sponsor our shirt and other stuff. . source

 

guess the answer for city is to keep extending the existing naming rights deal.

 

 

 

you tell me - i'm no expert on man city. if it isn't the etihad deal, which other abu dabhi-affiliated companies have paid over "fair market value" because lets face it - that's how you increased your revenue isn't it? you can't just pump the sheikh's money in so it's funnelled in via "commercial revenue". it's not like man city are suddenly selling more replica shirts than man u is it? i'm sure PIF would like to do the same via affiliated saudi companies but we are not being allowed to repeat the man city model

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9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

you tell me - i'm no expert on man city. if it isn't the etihad deal, which other abu dabhi-affiliated companies have paid over "fair market value" because lets face it - that's how you increased your revenue isn't it? you can't just pump the sheikh's money in so it's funnelled in via "commercial revenue". it's not like man city are suddenly selling more replica shirts than man u is it? i'm sure PIF would like to do the same via affiliated saudi companies but we are not being allowed to repeat the man city model

 

https://theathletic.com/3120837/2022/02/17/special-report-manchester-citys-sponsors-the-links-to-abu-dhabi-and-what-it-means-for-newcastle-united/

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1 hour ago, ewerk said:

 

right, so pretty much as i suspected. 

 

so the question must be, will they be allowed to keep their commercial revenue artificially inflated in a world of "FMV" and if so, will the saudis be allowed to join the party? 

 

i suspect the reason we haven't done a big stadium sponsorship or training ground deal yet (low-hanging fruit) is they're waiting to see how this plays out before trying to do a deal that will maximise revenue for us while not falling foul of the bullshit rules designed to stop us. 

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Of course Abu Dhabi linked businesses want to be associated with us. Our chairman Khaldoon has grown Mubadala massively since he's been running it. He is THE MAN, a true world stage player.

 

This is my favourite of his interviews ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rb1j_dRKQ  .. but there are many.

 

There is a flip side though. Etihad airways have been growing faster than Man City, so who's to say that we couldn't be asking for more? maybe its not fair on city :)

 

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i would add that i don't really care about where the money is coming from.

 

the rules were brought in to screw us over so if we've found a way around them then tough titties.

 

presumably we have long term deals in place and you'd expect existing deals to be okay.

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14 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Erm excuse me Mr Robin, but I don't shit on people. 

 

I let people shit on me.

Not what I said, but each to his own :smile:

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How do these people manage to keep going for more than a single window? Its so blatantly all made up

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35 minutes ago, Andrew said:

How do these people manage to keep going for more than a single window? Its so blatantly all made up

Casey is another Big Frank type IMO. Only he accidentally guessed something right once, got stuck on SSN and a bunch of podcasts and is now in way too deep. He's the Donnie Brasco of parody accounts.

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28 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Is at it again

 

 

 

If he stays no doubt it will be 'aye well things changed and arsenal pulled out' 

 

His fatha should have.

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1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

Is at it again

 

 

 

If he stays no doubt it will be 'aye well things changed and arsenal pulled out' 

Tbh if they want to spunk £100m on a player they don’t need then fuck em.

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