PaddockLad 14795 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Renton said: Nit harsh on Biden there. I dread to think what the situation would be like under Trump.... Yeah. It’s just I can’t see him grasping the nettle tbh. These thoughts have been swilling around my head for a few days. If they’re going round mine surely to fuck someone who can actually make a difference might be thinking them too? … Edited October 13, 2023 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginolaandtonic 169 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Renton said: Why won't Egypt take them? There is literally nowhere else. The Arab world doesn’t seem to give a fuck about Palestinians… they just use the cause for their own ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginolaandtonic 169 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, Renton said: Bit harsh on Biden there. I dread to think what the situation would be like under Trump.... I think he’s better at geopolitics than he’s given credit for personally. I appreciate that’s a minority view and I’m not going to argue the point so call me a cunt and we’ll move on. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ginolaandtonic said: I think he’s better at geopolitics than he’s given credit for personally. I appreciate that’s a minority view and I’m not going to argue the point so call me a cunt and we’ll move on. 😎 Call me a cunt too cos I agree. No doubting his age is inevitably an issue though. Wish we had a statesman like Obama in these troubled times, someone with youthful vigour and respected the world over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30698 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I think he meant Trump. G&T is a bit of a fan of his iirc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alex said: I think he meant Trump. G&T is a bit of a fan of his iirc Oh, okay. Yeah, G&T, you're a cunt. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19990 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Parky’s alter ego perhaps? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I mean if we had a racist, narcissistic, psychopath in power now in the US who is a literal traitor to his own country, what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Hamza Yousaf's mother in law is in Gaza. Quite harrowing video here. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/13/wheres-peoples-hearts-humza-yousaf-mother-in-law-sends-tearful-video-from-gaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3544 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Renton said: Hamas knew this, but did this anyway, presumably on purpose. In a way, they have done this to their own people. They could rerlease the hostages, after all, then the moral burden would be shifted to Israel. Why won't they? What Hamas was trying to achieve last week I honestly don't know, can't get my head around it. Desperation, anger, pure madness, attempt to bring the issue to the fore? It's lunacy whatever it was. A vastly different situation to this of course but I go back to my own experiences with terrorism growing up in a post 9/11 Pakistan battling with insurgents who claimed to be resisting the US invasion into Afghanistan. Over 50,000 civilians dead for a war we weren't even directly fighting. Vast majority of people in the country opposed the US invasion and the logistics/intelligence support from Pakistan so no one could understand why these insurgents were exacting 'revenge' from the average civilian, killing kids? Muslims killing muslims? (not exactly a holy war eh). Was the violence helping to keep the matter relevant in national politics? Were they just angry and/or mad? Pushing their agenda to flare violence and recruit more people? I don't know the answers. Its just mad right? Wrong on so many levels. Yet this has been the common response to occupation/invasion throughout history. This is why the mindless statements of support for Israel's brutalities from many developed nations are so important. There is no hope if we cannot exert some level of fairness into our reactions. It really comes down to the age old adage for me, no justice no peace. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30698 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I don’t mean this to offend anyone and it’s not meant to support / excuse Hamas’ actions at all. But talk of the UK offering military support to Israel in this conflict makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. I’m not sure if that’s still on the table but it was being discussed in the last couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39007 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Maybe related, what with it being World Jihad Day, but as I drove past Armstrong Vickers on Scotswood Rd. about an hour ago, there was a huge police presence- probably 20-30 coppers at both gates and all along the fence. And one, single daftie dancing about with a Palestine flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 5004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Alex said: I don’t mean this to offend anyone and it’s not meant to support / excuse Hamas’ actions at all. But talk of the UK offering military support to Israel in this conflict makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. I’m not sure if that’s still on the table but it was being discussed in the last couple of days Yeah. I know what you mean. Surely Israel have the military power to deal with Palestine (rightly or wrongly). We probably just followed the US is solidarity. Edited October 13, 2023 by Holden McGroin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 47 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Maybe related, what with it being World Jihad Day, but as I drove past Armstrong Vickers on Scotswood Rd. about an hour ago, there was a huge police presence- probably 20-30 coppers at both gates and all along the fence. And one, single daftie dancing about with a Palestine flag. I hope you're pleased with yourself wasting all those police resources then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39007 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Renton said: I hope you're pleased with yourself wasting all those police resources then. I got the distinct impression that daft lad was just a happy accident- the Bacons were out in force , maybe a tip-off, maybe just caution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17973 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Didn't even know Vickers still made armanents tbh. He'll be back outside M&S next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19990 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 This is a fascinating interview and covers a lot of what we have talked about - good explanation of why Hamas wants to destroy the peace process https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-politics/id1611374685?i=1000631234308 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26727 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Play off to decide who owns East Jerusalem? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14126 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Imagine that turning on a dodgy VAR decision. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30698 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 51 minutes ago, ewerk said: Play off to decide who owns East Jerusalem? Today he feels Palestinian. Today he feels Israeli 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19990 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 The bloke should have his own accidental Partridge page 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 5703 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, ewerk said: Play off to decide who owns East Jerusalem? Christmas kick arounds ceased somewhere between 1914 and 1917. Someone should tell Infantino to stick to fraud and stay out of geopolitics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginolaandtonic 169 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 19990 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Not now, Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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