thebrokendoll 14190 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: This cheeky cunt. The FUCKING GRANDFATHER of "rage first, gather facts later" forum posting. combined with the blatant plagiarism of paddocklad's favourite smilie thing. a new low from the yorkshire man. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 12 minutes ago, Gemmill said: This cheeky cunt. The FUCKING GRANDFATHER of "rage first, gather facts later" forum posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 10 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: combined with the blatant plagiarism of paddocklad's favourite smilie thing. a new low from the yorkshire man. bless grandad *shouting* IT'S AN EMOJI 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12320 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 I don’t reckon we’re playing him to his strengths. I think when Wissa is fit we’ll see an altogether different Elanga. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9298 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 10 minutes ago, Craig said: I don’t reckon we’re playing him to his strengths. I think when Wissa is fit we’ll see an altogether different Elanga. We have the two fastest wingers in the league and a slow striker who likes to drop deep to receive the ball to feet. It's not quite clicking up front for us atm, but big Nick needs to be higher up the pitch to benefit from Gordon and Elanga's strengths. Not a criticism of him as he's been mint so far this season, but sometimes our wingers are the furthest man up the pitch and end up with no options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 (edited) 9 hours ago, Craig said: I don’t reckon we’re playing him to his strengths. I think when Wissa is fit we’ll see an altogether different Elanga. Agreed. Think he was bought to be part of a front 3 of (usually) him, Isak and Gordon as well. Edited October 19 by Alex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12320 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 1 minute ago, Alex said: Agreed. Think he was bought to be front 3 of (usually) him, Isak and Gordon as well. Aye he was bought to play off Isak and I reckon it’d have been deadly. But the rat got greedy. I expect people will say Elanga / Isak hasn’t worked for Sweden but that’s more down to the coaching for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12320 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 13 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: We have the two fastest wingers in the league and a slow striker who likes to drop deep to receive the ball to feet. It's not quite clicking up front for us atm, but big Nick needs to be higher up the pitch to benefit from Gordon and Elanga's strengths. Not a criticism of him as he's been mint so far this season, but sometimes our wingers are the furthest man up the pitch and end up with no options. I reckon also, we could do with the holding midfielder giving Elanga some balls over the top to chase. Tonali to Elanga could end up being incredibly fruitful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14190 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, Craig said: Aye he was bought to play off Isak and I reckon it’d have been deadly. But the rat got greedy. I expect people will say Elanga / Isak hasn’t worked for Sweden but that’s more down to the coaching for me. in fairness elanga did put 2 or 3 decent crosses in from the left wing for sweden. such a shame the rat's eternally struggling with his lack of a preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12320 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: in fairness elanga did put 2 or 3 decent crosses in from the left wing for sweden. such a shame the rat's eternally struggling with his lack of a preseason. Don’t fret, his batteries are now fully charged, he’ll be on fire today accord to Sloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22422 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 I've been thinking maybe this lad works best in a counter attacking side and that our more regular possession based build up doesn't suit him. Fairly sure if you give him a square ball in the middle third of the pitch with an opposition player in close attendance he's not going to beat his man. Put the ball in front of him to run on to and he's going to build up momentum to use his most obvious and greatest asset. Watched this, he can pass, cross and shoot accurately. Doesn't prove or disprove what I'm saying but it shows the player he can be, I think he'll eventually show it...over to you Eddie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12521 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 It takes time to click, especially as part of a new unit. It's not like he's coming into a settled side and working out he fits, he's trying to work out how to operate with other players who're trying to work out how to gel themselves. If/when Gordon, Woltemade and Elanga work out when to time their runs, when to come close and when to pull wide, then our midfield and attacking fullbacks will be able to provide the chances. It's just going to take time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 399 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I don't think the fullbacks absence gets enough of a review on wider impact in my opinion. Two years ago we played Burn and Trips at LB and RB respectively but burn tucked in and Trippier became a tremendous attacking outlet. Gordon had a free reign to in the main attack. Fast forward two years and we have Burn probably a stone or two heavier, 2 years older and less mobile. Less impact going forward and less space for Gordon to attack who becomes easier to mark (more so when you consider the opposite FB doesnt impact the game in the same way). You have Trippier who is far less influential going forward, slower & visibly older in movement. I'd say he's been great the last 5 or 6 months (as well as lead up to final) but more so in a defensive capacity. Once Hall and Tino are back and firing, genuinely think it transforms the unit & attack as a bye product. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12320 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Hugely valid point. And whilst we're on that we need to explore cover for Hall and Tino for the mid to long term - particularly Hall. They've both got the potential to be England regulars and the only threat to that is their susceptibility to injury. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5948 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Tino is massively important to the way we play, he links up a lot of the play and his constant running opens up spaces for the likes of Gordon and Barnes (Elanga down the right hopefully soon). We also haven't had the same intensity/pressing so far this season that's been the hallmark of this team under Howe. Who knows if that's us adjusting to new players, playing style etc or something else. Maybe just trying to transition from counter attacking to a more possession based style? Botman and Thiaw in the side have definitely added more control in that respect but you also need Hall and Livramento plus either Ramsey or Miley to take over from Joelinton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kid Dynamite 9298 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Brought on for the last 10mins to run around yesterday and he didn't even manage that particularly well. Bit of a sickner that we peddled Minteh and paid twice as much for a poorer player (so far anyway). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62969 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Howay man, he was brought on to play out of position up front when we were basically trying to run down the clock. He did nowt wrong at all. Minteh is not that good and Elanga will turn out better than him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9298 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Howay man, he was brought on to play out of position up front when we were basically trying to run down the clock. He did nowt wrong at all. Minteh is not that good and Elanga will turn out better than him. We will have to disagree there. Fastest player on the pitch and the one break we did have in the last 10mins (with Tonali) he was nowhere to be seen. He stood off their defenders and didn't really offer a press at all. I've defended him all season but there comes a point where questions have to be asked. Joint 3rd highest transfer in the clubs history and we are currently on 0G and 0A from 17 appearances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15507 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Judge him when he gets a run in the team with a full supporting cast (Tino in particular). WAY too early to judge just now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 399 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) With the return of the two intl top class full backs providing tons of space for the midfield 3, there will be more one and two touch balls into the front 3. We will be far more fluid for sure. Those wingers can't perform in isolation. We've seen it with Barnes, Murphy and Gordon so the same has to be the case for Elanga. He joined this club in the summer, at a point we were forced to change the way we play in the front 3 by his international buddy throwing toys out. We played slightly differently to Forest anyway and even more so now. Give the guy a chance when he's had a run, surrounded by our best players. His best two performances have come against Barca and USG. He was MOTM in both from our perspective and created 2 clear cut opportunities in the first half against the former, which should have been taken. He'll be fine. Edited November 23 by NobbySol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Minteh You'r comparing apples and oranges. We had no choice getting shut of Minteh and he had never even worn our shirt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39123 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 He cost us half an Alexander Isak. Seems like a bargain to me right now. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27739 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Minteh was shite for us. P0, W0, D0, L0, no goals or assists. And to top it all, I can't keep a straight face when saying his name. Amazed that people are writing Elanga off. He's not going to suit every game, but will be a big asset in some going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 6685 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 I wouldn’t write him off, but he looks no use to the team currently and our need for points means Murphy should start every premier league game until Elanga is a worthy challenger for his position. It’s really hard to see any of his qualities even beginning to come to the surface. Add that to him looking devoid of any confidence, it’s not going to be easy for him. He really needs a solid showing or a goal to get him going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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