Rayvin

Maybe that's what the talks were set up for though, start that process. I mean the club must know if it's going to budge on this or not, they're the only ones who actually can know what is going to happen here.

Whereas Staveley was already minted, she certainly didn't need the paycheck she picked up from the club. Aye, you're spot on there. EDIT - maybe not then based on the previous two posts

Is that all it was? I mean they sold up too, no? Was that always part of the plan or something?

He must be convinced there's another bid coming. I reckon as soon as we land a striker, even if it's the Wilson replacement, Liverpool will pull the trigger.

Fair analysis - I'd take Amanda back (with some other more football specific professionalism alongside), I think she had a huge positive presence. I still don't totally understand what pushed them out, it felt like a couple of things coming together at once.

They just gave him a new deal right? Last one he'll ever get I'd imagine - why push himself so hard anymore. I hope that's his attitude to it anyway. But aye, I think you're maybe right.

I saw this, thought about posting it, and decided that no one would want to see it I don't mind the Death Star FC stuff, that was funny the first couple of times, but the entire thing is just a hit piece with no context or nuance that explains our situation. A vapid, uninformed take on the whole thing.

My personal view is that when they took over people were expecting a Man City style shock and awe moment - but nothing they've done supports that analysis. If you look at their actual trajectory, they've had a pretty consistent approach from day one and have relied on capable people on the ground to deliver on it. We still have the chairman of PIF turning up to some of our games, end of seasons, etc. They've delivered silverware and have us challenging for CL. So I would say they've been consistent in their approach throughout, but the media set them up as something they've never attempted to be. I continue to believe that their only real failing here is in moving quickly on executive appointments - but at the same time, finding the right person is important, and bringing them in at the right moment is also important. I expect we announce both DOF and CEO once the window shuts so that neither are infected by this Isak nonsense and they have a clean slate start.

I might be imagining it but I detected a slight hint of bitterness/barb in Howe's comments on the Isak situation, specifically when noting that he only wants to spend time on players who want to be here. That makes me wonder if something has shifted, but I suppose it's equally possible he's just sick of the whole thing.

We've been playing well, we should win this. Obviously injuries are a concern but it does feel like we have a little depth for the first time in many years.

The Sun has been claiming this for the past two days, but I don't know why The Sun of all papers would have the inside scoop on Liverpool.

Nah fair, I didn't realise that all came off the back of MF making a comment about him sticking in reserves for 3 years. I've seen scousers trot that tired argument out over the notion that we keep him even beyond this summer so that was the direction I was aiming it at. Fair enough on all comments about the 3 year thing though I would add that no one, not even MF, is seriously suggesting that. It's just cathartic to say it So there you go, I solved the whole thing for you. That's my apology.

Was aimed at Duffman's argument about players being kept against their will, not you - the thought that we will be putting people off. I'm simply observing that if we just sell him off without any sort of plan then we're engaging in more harm than some notional idea that future players might not want to join us.

He isn't going to down tools for an entire season no matter what he's said. We also aren't going to hold him if we can find any sort of satisfying way out of this. But for the argument that players will be put off if we enforce the contract, I do think it is also worth considering that the negative impact on the careers of the players and staff that we -already have- is a factor in this also. If we sell Isak with no replacement, we've fucked over the entire team, Howe, and really the entire club. That's a bigger issue than 'potential future players'.

Fair enough but I think this game was always going to be a bit wild. He runs off passion ultimately. I understand your point though, in which case I guess that apology is aimed at you.

Has he actually posted that? Well fucking done if he did tbh but I wasn't blaming him anyway. Good lad.

I cba reading that shit tbh.

You'd think that would have been obvious. Fucking weapon.

Liverpool have always been, and will always be, a club of pathetic, whining victims. Nice to see Slot is keeping the tradition alive.

Tell you what mind, I'm proud of them. That is exactly the spirit this city has, and that the team should represent. Sure we lost, but glorious failure has always been our thing. This was a good fucking try and while Liverpool might not admit it, they will definitely be viewing us as rivals these days.

In the end it's just 3 points. It's a bigger issue for Newcastle fans than anyone else. Even Liverpool fans probably don't care about this as much as we do.

We're on the edge of losing truth altogether it seems.

The Royal Family are such a treasure to our nation

I think we're all going to have to accept that the lunatics are going to take over the asylum in full.

For real. Jesus would have been considered a left wing radical by the standards of these muppets. I do genuinely think we are seeing a rise now of political Christianity in the same vein as political Islam before it. People who don't give a shit about the faith but want to use it to push conservative agendas off the back of some sort of notion of a moral crusade.