Rayvin

You say that but it's not the first time this has happened It'll be interesting to see what happens from here but it's not going to die. What it may do, and I think it likely a positive, is shake off all the people who had no idea what they were investing in and were just chasing gains. Until the next time it comes around of course. Blockchain isn't going anywhere though, and cryptocurrencies are the mechanism by which it operates.

Luna is a great example of people not understanding what they've bought tbf, although some are calling it a ponzi scheme with a measured amount of accuracy IMO. What has happened in a nutshell is that the sister coin to it, UST, lost its pegging with the dollar (which was why it existed, and the whole ecosystem relied on it). When that happens, Luna has to balance it up - and it happened so hard, through being attacked by a hedgefund as far as anyone can tell, that Luna simply couldn't keep up. Consequently they've had to resort to hyperinflation and are mass printing Luna in order to push up UST - the hope being, I think, that doing so will save the ecosystem. Remains to be seen but a lot of people have lost a great deal of money, and this was meant to be one of the safer options in the space. Undone by the the overlooking of a systemic error.

I don't know if anyone on here besides myself and Quiff actually did pay attention to this stuff but there's a fantastic meltdown going on right now and we appear to be entering the bear market properly. One of the biggest coins dropped from $90 to.. currently at about $0.05. Not a confidence thing though tbf, it had its underlying system exploited and money just caned out of it. We are almost certainly going to see this space regulated now, at least as far as stablecoins go. Fun times

Is there anyone still out there who thinks that the Tories are competent with the economy? Surely that utter fabrication of reality is done now.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/12/hate-mail-death-threats-culture-war-matthew-katzman-cancelling-queen Good article about a poor lad from the US who became public enemy number 1 for the daily mail a year or so ago when his college subcommittee voted on removing a picture of the queen and his name was appended to the document as an administrative formality due to his role in the committee setup. National media story, hate mail, death threats, eventually fled back to the states. The UK is a fucking rabid country when it comes to the Royals.

This would be the game that confirms mathematical safety. Hope CT has got the champagne ready.

Yeah his spirit definitely lives on in this thread I still like ASM tbh. Maybe he won't be good enough long term but he's easily someone we can go into next season with. Not an urgent replacement IMO. Striker and central defender for me. And a left back if we can't secure Targett - and in case Howe wants to do a version of Pardew's greatest hits.

You mean the racism element? Well yes I was assuming that this wasn't the official reason though

You can put money on this stuff right? Safest bet of my life.

I'm not totally clear on what Harry is meant to have done to warrant being cut off particularly, other than offending the Daily Mail in some form or another - but beyond that I think they should (but won't) skip Charles altogether. He's too old ffs. It'll be interesting to have to change the lyrics to the anthem. Not that I can sing it anyway since the idea of holding one person over and above everyone else is repellent and an anachronism

I mean, it's in the post I think. Have to admit a certain amount of trepidation about what happens when she does pass, as much as I remain a staunch republican.

You'd be doing the world a favour. Originally a Lib Dem until he realised he could make more money as a Tory iirc. He's the personification of the concept of 'loathsome'.

Tbf I was a little surprised I went off so hard on this bit, but I remember now just how fucking angry I was back then at what was happening, and how utterly voiceless and powerless I felt to do anything about it. For all I get worked up about Brexit, austerity will always be my original fucking gripe

I noticed Grimes tweeted that he thought Starmer was a huge hypocrite but he didn't think this was a good use of Durham constabulary's time. They know they've fucked this one up IMO.

I blame the unions for a great deal, believe me. To me this one isn't over dramatic. The collapse of resistance to austerity, that surrendering of the narrative could be blamed for everything from Corbyn through to Brexit, Johnson to the pandemic response. The idea that we needed to stop spending in order to recover is responsible for so fucking many issues in this country, in my opinion, that it is frankly up as an unforgiveable sin as far as I'm concerned.

Good for him, nice to see some integrity if nothing else.

I mean, we're talking about the fallout from Brown, the Milliband years and the eventual collapse of common decency within Labour that led to their shameful vote on, I believe, a welfare bill to 'keep up appearances on austerity'. That was them taking an axe to New Labour and that was when they needed a firm fucking shake. Which they got. I am more than happy to agree that Corbyn was a disaster in hindsight but I'm not having this idea that centrist Labour didn't cause, stoke and deliver that issue themselves. They were a zombie party that believed in nothing and betrayed most of its principles as part of an existential crisis that it never recovered from as a result of compromising half the things it believed in just to win power. In fact, the more I think about this the more concerned I am about where we are at present.

In fact, you could argue that they were the first ones to take an axe to all the good work they did under Blair. All because they didn't have the fucking stones to stand up and tell people the truth and felt the need to pander to fucking muppets. Which is, I note, where we are once again.

They supported austerity and surrendered the narrative on Labour being economically competent in the process, thus setting us back what will likely be two decades of economic progress by telling the public that the party whose approach to the economy is slash and burn with a dose of corruption, actually had the right of it. In so doing they actually created Corbyn's movement. That complete betrayal of not just their principles but also fucking reality is what gave his entire platform the impetus it needed.

I think Labour under Corbyn really did try for power, mind. I also don't think there's a black and white view of this, the centrists in Labour have done plenty of harm to your espoused objective themselves. No one in Labour came out of the Corbyn fiasco looking good, there was plenty of shit to go around.

Honestly I broadly agree but we are never going to win. We've been defeated utterly and there's just no point in trying to fight the big battles anymore. Best we can do is hope to win a policy here or there.

I don't even have one setup. Went the same way as my TV license, relics of a bygone age.

Corbyn absolutely should have had a different platform, I fully agree with this. And you're right, PR would permit a far more balanced breakdown of views and less risk of extremist positions taking the floor. Let's not forget that the Tories suffered basically the same thing in Brexit - they were taken over by a pack of far right lunatics who remain in power even now. As much as we need Labour to move on from Corbyn, it's already ahead of the Tories in this respect who haven't even confronted their equivalent problem yet. But yes, Labour is a centre left platform and should remain such. Corbyn and the hard left (and I might well follow them) should have their own platform. It needs PR for this to happen though.

I could fully believe it was leaked by a disgruntled Corbynite given everything that went on from the centrist wing during the Corbyn years. That said, if that is the case, it's as fucking stupid a thing to do now as it was then. It's supposed to be a united political party ffs, it cannot continue on with the self harm. That is actually one decent thing Starmer has managed to do at least, he has seemingly moved the party on somewhat from all the acrimony of his first year. Unless it's all still there and we're just hearing less about it now thanks to all the bigger global events I suppose. I struggle to imagine his successor will have the same sorts of problems to resolve, so that's a plus at the very least.

I think they thought they could call his bluff and prove that deep down, all politicians are the same. He needs to stick to his guns on this now, leave the public in no doubt who the liars are.