Rayvin

Ah well, 70 years of not being relegated set to continue. Was fun while it lasted. Leeds are done then.

A draw doesn't help them if Burnley win tonight or draw/beat us. They need to win this, they'll have to go for it. EDIT - was thrown by the BBC's stupid live update league table not being quick enough. Burnley will need to win tonight or against us, a draw won't be enough for them. You'd still say they're more likely to come out of that positively than Everton away at Arsenal though. Arsenal who have to win, I might add.

Christ, would I prefer Everton to go down or £350... I actually genuinely think I'd take Everton going down.

I mean I don't think he's that invested anymore honestly, he just likes to complain about how shite they are.

I should be so lucky (on the money, not his health) He remarried a woman nearer in age to me than she is to him, no chance of any inheritance from that situation. And no I just mean he worries about it most seasons and honestly I think it might actually do him good to no longer have to dread it

My dad's team too, but I still want them to go down Tbh he's been expecting it for about as long as I've been alive, they've been shit for that long. Might finally put him out of his misery.

A draw won't be enough for Everton here, nothing changes unless they win. Leeds will still overtake them with a win if they get a point.

If we're thwarted by the ineptitude of Leeds after Burnley's daring escape, it's going to be a huge fucking let down.

Aye - if Burnley win today though it makes no difference whether we beat them or not irrespective of what happens for the other two. If Everton beat Arsenal then they're staying up either way. Burnley lose today and we're stuck with potentially having the fate of Everton football club on one hand, and beating Burnley for the hell of it in the other.

They're taking it well... [Poor language removed] this 5 back off Frank you clueless weapon [Poor language removed] this. Absolutely [Poor language removed] disgraceful They are corrupt as F these refs; had that yellow out straight away. If an Everton player does that it's red...We are down...it's done...I'm done with these C; they can just F off. Omg I'm going to cry, how am I going to work with us losing the game If there was any slither of doubt that this game wasn’t fixed, I think we can lay that discussion to rest now

Think I might head over to GOT and see what sort of [Poor language removed] they're in.

So we want Burnley to win I guess since that means we can beat them on final day without it keeping Everton up. Can't believe it's going to the wire like this after they beat Chelsea ffs

Why are we so determined to move Dubravka on, I don't get it. I can't recall a single point in this season where I thought "if only we had a better keeper". He's not good enough for the future maybe but I really don't get why he's being ushered out the door ahead of others.

I would imagine Henderson is relevant to the 'home grown' consideration since by the sounds of it we'll be fielding a half Brazilian team by the time we've got a couple more windows under our belt.

I mean tbh I feel like they've been lowering expectations from the start anyway - yes there was talk of winning things but it was very much pitched as a 10 year project as far as winning the league goes. I actually don't think it would take that long if we spent well (assuming City and Liverpool current generations slide into decline together) but they've not said at any point that they were going to throw money around as far as I can recall?

I especially like the bloke who rules himself out because volunteers have to be over 17 and he'll have his niece with him How does her presence prevent you from waving a bit of cloth around you fuckwit.

I predict one of two things: 1 - It won't be as incriminating as we hoped, but will represent the bare minimum level of police effort to draw a line under it. 2 - If it is as incriminating as we hope, it won't really matter anyway.

It's an interesting one because if we don't spend ambitiously we'll be less able to sell the vision of a 'project' to these players at the level we need to bring in - equally though I really don't think we are going to do a Man City here despite what the world seems to think. If we can get Targett, Nunez (or similar), Paqueta and a centre back, then I think tbh we've probably achieved all we need to for this window. £150m maybe if we're clever? If we go for a keeper maybe more like £200m.

Apologies if this has been linked already: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/lionel-messi-saudi-arabia-deal-tourism Messi is taking money from SA to be something of an ambassador It is surely now not possible to approve of Messi in any capacity for all football fans "concerned about human rights"

Fair enough, I don't know the guy at all and Wikipedia makes some mention of him having been a left winger at one stage, guess I just got stuck on that.

He's a left winger right, so a replacement for ASM? Or maybe one or the other of them could play on the right..? I'm not convinced all this noise is leading to a transfer mind

Aye. I will say though, fair fucks to them for digging in this season and playing their best to get us out of the shit. Grateful to them all for helping the club to move on from the rolling nightmare of Ashley.

It is a good article, and an important one. For all the limitations of the team, for all they had been led by a donkey for the past two years, I'm not sure we ever doubted that they were trying, for the most part. I felt a bit sorry for Lascelles in particular in the post-match celebrations. He's putting a brave face on it but I'm sure it'll hurt him that he's not likely to retain a starting place nor continue captaining the team - if indeed he remains at the club at all. There's no way for everyone to be happy in the end and they're professional but still. Players like him, Hayden, Ritchie, all good servants and likeable people. If they do go on from here I hope they have satisfying careers.

I think top left and top right from those. They have the look of a serious European club. The middle magpie one is maybe more charming but I don't think has the same gravitas.

I don't mind any potential change, I just hope it's not overly simplistic.