Rayvin

Everton doing their spoiling routine again - game needs a Chelsea goal to force them to go for it.

Ah, yeah no, fair enough

Strikes me as an overall positive situation mind, taking the daughter to go watch the women's team..? You just not in the mood for it or is there a wide philosophical resistance? Fair play to her for wanting to go tbh.

I wonder how much of it is to do with the Home Grown quota stuff. I always wondered if that was as strict as football manager makes it out to be, but if it's directly translated then he's one of the few players who the club has trained itself. All the other "big" clubs have players like this, our problem is just that we have done such a shit job investing in our youth training over the years that we don't really have much else to show for it.

If Leeds do get a result, that thread is going to be my bedtime reading.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/relegation.113693/page-1522 There you go, straight from where it all started to go wrong in the Watford game.

Everton fans are fully beside themselves like - decent number of them think they're about to do a Sunderland. Even if they don't, they'll never recover. It's the end of the club apparently. Drama queens

Well I was one of them. I thought it was inconceivable. Fair play.

That was a mental decision tbf. No way were they going down with Rafa at the helm. Can only imagine when that decision was made that they thought they should actually be storming up the league.

Which is precisely where their fans are tbh. They think they're finished. How many years is it? 75? Roughly equivalent to the number of years we'll have to listen to Gemmill harp on about how he called it

But that of course assumes that Everton win all 3 of their ''winnable' games. Honestly I am coming around to this now, I think Everton might well be fucked. It's not impossible for them to get out of it, but they're gonna have to dig fucking deep.

Working it through... I mean looking at who they've got left, I can see Everton (if they're really at the races, picking up points against Watford, maybe Brentford and maybe Palace. Could be anything from 4 to the full 9 points there. Unlikely on the 9 but not unthinkable. Would put them on 38. Burnley maybe 4 points off Villa and 1 from us, putting them on 39. I actually do think Burnley have saved themselves now unless Stevie G suddenly becomes decent. Leeds have to target Brighton and Brentford but honestly I think that's 3 points at best. Putting them on 37 too. I think that's the thing, if Leeds win both those games, Everton are finished - but Brighton for instance have just stuck 3 past Wolves away today. I don't really see Leeds taking them apart.

That is actually Leeds right in it now too assuming they lose later. It'd be a bit cheap to have Leeds go down instead of Everton tbh - could have handled Burnley since they've been up against it all season but Leeds have just sort of drifted down at the wrong moment.

That's Norwich officially relegated too, not that anyone cares

Just went to Grand Old Team (Everton forum) to see how they're dealing with it over there. I think the following post is probably the most common: [Poor language removed]

Might be what CT said about the early kick off tbh. People haven't had time to put a few pints away.

Howay, I reckon we can make a bit of a statement here. Maybe not win, maybe lose, but I reckon we can make Liverpool work for it.

There's a decent amount of interest in retro games. Give Rocket League a whirl though Closest you can get to playing football in a video game, despite the fact that it's only 3 per side, you can fly, and you're a car. Good luck anyway, let us know when you're afloat.

Do you reckon you're on for promotion?

I think the same demographics who support Putin over there are the same ones who support him over here. He's put money into Brexit, Trump, the right in general, anti-wokeness, the discrediting of institutions both national and international, and it's the same demographics who lap it up whether here or in Russia. I don't blame them particularly because our entire discourse (and certainly their's) has been destroyed. We can't agree now on what the metric for assessing a factual statement is, instead we tell ourselves that philosophical frameworks and structures that we would have once used for this are 'elitist' and part of some conspiracy. That's Putin's doing IMO (which isn't to say that those who spun this bullshit didn't eagerly lap it up). Either way though, we live in a world where established, evidence based opinions are treated as equal to poorly informed, vacuous opinions. Instead of engaging in sincere and honest debate with a view to informing yourself and growing, people instead want their biases confirmed and defend and fight for their positions without any regard at all for truth or evidence. Because of how successful Russian social media manipulation has been over here, I am confident that it is also strong over there. But yes, it won't be all of them. As ever, people who have developed critical thinking skills will be less susceptible to it.

Is that a line he's pushing? Where was that angle when Bruce was here and all and sundry were raging about how ungrateful and awful we all were to him? For that matter, doesn't Edwards himself support Crewe?? EDIT - Leyton Orient apparently. No opinion for you, Luke. You stick to Orient.

Mind I'll never forget his involvement in that 4-4 against Arsenal. Two penalties and some great shithousing. EDIT - To this day I think that game was the beginning of the end for Wenger. They lost the League Cup final to Birmingham (I think?) shortly after it. Arsenal's collapse took many seasons but that second half comeback started the process IMO.

These are the sort of skills you'll need as a streamer tbf.

Personally I am not optimistic about this game at all, and will be pleased with just a decent performance. Especially given this Mike Dean nonsense ffs.

What are you going to play?