Renton

Robert: greatest ever NUFC forum topic: FACT. Leads to an argument every single time! We'll never, ever all agree on this one.

Well yes, you can compare them in the same way you would Bellamy and Shearer then.

Renton, I've learnt to love you in a non-gay way, but his lack of effort was the main reason he had to go. He'd proved he was an excellent player, which is why personally I got so pissed off with his lack of effort. He believed his own hype. Wasted talent imo, but he's only got himself to blame (despite the fact he likes blaming everyone else). 101206[/snapback] SLP, I really struggle with this concept. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not a fan of Robert per se, but I defend him because I think was productive in the areas that matter (scoring and assisting) and he was unfairly victimised by Souness and the fans. Now, when people say he was lazy, what do they mean? Are they actually saying he thought to himself "I can't be arsed to run for that ball because it'll make me tired"? I'm sorry, but I just find that preposterous. If they are saying he didn't track back or tackle, then I'd say fair enough, that's true, but imo that wasn't his game. Whether that was because he was cowardly or because he was not competent to do it, I don't know (I think the latter personally), but I'm pretty sure it wasn't because he was lazy. Robert suffered towards the end of his career no doubt and his performances significantly deteriorated. However, if we are honest the same can be said of virtually all our players under Souness. Now Souness and Robert have gone I'm happy for us to move on and I sincerely hope N'Zogbia will fill the gap left by Robert, because if he does he is doing extreemely well. For the record I think he will and he can contribute in ways Robert didn't, but its still not guaranteed.

Would you compare Shearer with Bellamy? And how do you want to measure the comparison - goals created and scored a valid measure do you think? Or energy expired. Once again I'm not knocking N'Zogbia because I think he is massively improving, but I'm not going to use him to downgrade Robert either. 101198[/snapback] Well, you could but the comparison wouldn't be as valid seeing as they don't play in the exact same position (or they didn't at Newcastle) unlike Robert and N'Zogbia. Like I said comparing the latter two is valid imo. 101200[/snapback] So if we compare goals scored and assisted in a couple of years that's valid is it? I think they have very different qualities personally which won't necessarily reflect well on N'Zogbia using stats alone.

But we've hardly seen him play in the new improved side. Plus when he did he scored a peach against Pompey. We'll see, he only has a few games left now anyway. 101196[/snapback] Exactly, we're doing fine without him 101197[/snapback] We weren't against Charlton. I reckon we would have won that game with Shearer, seriously.

Would you compare Shearer with Bellamy? And how do you want to measure the comparison - goals created and scored a valid measure do you think? Or energy expired. Once again I'm not knocking N'Zogbia because I think he is massively improving, but I'm not going to use him to downgrade Robert either.

But we've hardly seen him play in the new improved side. Plus when he did he scored a peach against Pompey. We'll see, he only has a few games left now anyway.

Personally I think N'Zogbia and Robert are completely different types of players. Not complaing about N'Zogbia, he has come on leaps and bounds, but it isn't a valid comparison and I will personally be delighted if he can get close to Robert in terms of goals and assists. All this Robert is lazy stuff is so fucking lazy though! Sick and tired of hearing the same old tired cliche which as HTL makes no sense at all if you think about it.

Owen yes, I think Big Al's totally finished now though. 101184[/snapback] I knew you'd say that and I think you are wrong, and we have really missed him. Has it occurred to you that he has been just as much a victim of Souness's tactical incompetence as anyone else, probably more so in fact. If we supply him with goals into the area, he will score, I'm sure of it. I am looking forward to him proving you wrong.

I'm going to be very interested to see how the new improved Solano will link up first with Shearer, and then Owen. We might start scoring goals again. Edit: plus there's N'Zogbia and Emre to supply the bullets. We're going to win the FA cup this year.

No, I'm not Alex, I'm realistic enough to be happy enough with Fred not to rabbit on about replacing him all the time 101164[/snapback] What's the relevance of Doug Ellis to NUFC? How much money do Villa make compared to us? Why don't you compare our spending to comparable clubs like Liverpool? I think you are beginning to sound obsessed on this one Leazes. Shepherd takes much more money out of the club than he should - this is something every expert accountant seems to agree on. He also reinvests money in buying players, but this is NOT HIS MONEY. It's the proceeds that he gets from fleecing the fans, something he openly admits to. Yet we put up with it because we love our club, it's that simple. Comparing Shepherd to chairmen of poorer clubs or NUFC chairmen from a bygone age proves nothing and certainly does not make up for Shepherds gross incompetence of the past few years which have cost us a fortune.

that would be Sky indeed was a great angle, no point Westerveld trying to get there. 100913[/snapback] Well I saw it on MOTD so maybe they share the camera feed................... 101135[/snapback] Sky would have filmed it though and given the images to the BBC as part of the MotD deal. Anyway, both the beeb and Sky are better than ITV.

Well I'm saying I can't doss as much with MSN. You can always ignore e-mails and can quite easily watch day time TV while answering telephone calls. 101075[/snapback] Hadn't realised that like, suppose is depends on whether a person has a professional attitude or not. Anyway, sounds like you're speaking from experience, mate. Are you claiming you're the working from home equivalent of Albert Luque? 101080[/snapback] Different people work differently. As long as the work gets done I don't think it matters how you do it. I tend to avoid working from home because the temptation to doss is too much and I end up having to make up for it by working all night. I'll only do it now if i'm waiting for a delivery/work man etc. I do feel MSN is a pain in the arse as it's so distracting though, but it has its uses.

Well I'm saying I can't doss as much with MSN. You can always ignore e-mails and can quite easily watch day time TV while answering telephone calls.

Get over it....Bellamy is GONE I was glad when Kluivert scored against Chelsea but it didn't mean I wanted the guy to stay. If we still had Bellamy, we wouldn't have Owen. 100863[/snapback] Why not ? 101051[/snapback] Rather have Bellamy tbh. I see the usual people have never sorted out the truth from the shit they gobbled up from the Souness propaganda machine. The only twáts were Souness and his band of 'yes' men, Bellamy was a top player for us, doing far more for the cause of nufc than that twát Souness. 101054[/snapback] oh god not all this again 101057[/snapback] Sorry like, but it's never failed to amaze me how people who had nowt but praise for Bellamy for ages were so easily turned by the Souness propaganda machine. 101066[/snapback] The same people that were gullible enough to fall for Souness's bullshit also have selective amnesia.

Tosh! If someone can respond instantly to something on MSN they can answer the phone or reply to an email. Sounds like an excuse for a bit of browsing during the employers time if you ask me, like. Thieving fuckers, the youth of today. 101063[/snapback] Depends how busy you are. I've got about 120 unread emails in my inbox at the moment and I deal with the oldest one first. If someone at work gets my by MSN I see it straight away and deal with it there and then if required. The amount of downtime following server failures has dramitically reduced since we had MSN installed. The person who needs to know finds out almost instantaneously.... Frightened of change tbh! 101065[/snapback] We're being forced to get it at work. On the contrary to what HTL has said, it means I will be forced to be at my desk when "working from home". Bugger. Craig, are you going to move this thread or what? Lazy bugger.

Quoted and bookmarked. Proof that Gemmill is a chutney ferret.

Which chinese was it JawD? Surprised he eats with the plebs tbh.

Well if you see him I'm sure you'll notice him.

Shame the situation never arose where a paper could have proclaimed "Butt plugs Robson's hole" but never mind.

Definitely. And Souness may have had some initial success in terms of results, but our style of play was never transformed like it has been now. Well done Roeder and long may it continue.

At the end of the day you know and i know that there's arseholes out there who take great pleasure in singling the likes of this dick out for special treatment, not saying i would but i would look at him and think what a dick, much like i do when i read the majority of your posts Renton 100935[/snapback] I rememeber several of my mates being beaten up when I was a student just for the crime of looking different. Not saying you would do that but it's sad it still happens. Mind, I agree he looks like a dick. Best thing to do would be to laugh at him.

I would still want us to get a top class manager in. However, I'd much rather keep Roeder than get the likes of Bruce or O'Leary. It's important people don't get carried away. So far all our matches have been fairly easy on paper, although I am particularly impressed with how we took on an improved Everton with no recognized stikers. We've got some tough opposition coming up soon though and that's the acid test to how much we've improved.

Jesus wept at that picture Whacky. And RS200, you're not remotely funny unfortunately.

Aye. All these student types deserve a good twatting like.