Renton

I mean, what did you expect? A light meoldrama with an uplifting ending?

His defenceis it's a kangaroo court and the elite are trying to censor him because he believes in a soverign Britain. Wibble.

Meanwhile the party of law and order:

You've done the right thing in closing the other thread which trivialised the issue and had fucknuts like Parky and opening this one. We shouldn't censor this issue, everybody has been respectful imo. There are clear sensitivities to navigate with Gloom and aimaad, just like real life. In my office, I have colleagues who have relatives in Israel being called up, and a colleague with immediate family in Gaza. This isn't an esoteric issue, it is affecting a lot of people in the UK and must be faced. Maybe that will become a positive, that the issue will have to be resolved now rather than left to fester for dacades with people just thinking "not this shit again in Gaza/west bank" and switching off the news.

See, I don't agree with this at all. It's a message board, General Chat is all about sharing opiniions and feelings about World events as well as funny stuff. I agree this topic needs extra sensitivity, but I don't see anyone trying to win an argument here. In fact, we're all pretty much in agreement the whole thing is a shit show. But exposing the hypocrisy of the politics here with particular reference to the UK is what we do. Participation on this thread is optional and those that are contributing aren't weird. Okay. maybe some are, but not cos they're on this thread.

Watched boiling point, good as expected but found it quite depressing. I wonder if Stephen Graham has ever done anything uplifting in his career? Also obviously set up for a sequel. It's interesting how this and the Bear have both come about, apparently indepndently. In E3, a new sous chef is employed. It was really bugging where I'd heard him before then it suddenly struck me!

It seems impossible to transfer CL tickets between age categories for some reason. Another hour wasted in a queue at the box office beckons tomorrow. Fucking useless.

Divn't forget the sky hooks and nail holes marra!

They're obsessed over there with expanding their stadium so it has more seats than SJP, a la Bob Murray. Has it ever even sold out once since their last derby against us? Anyway, it can't happen according to this ITK.

Think I've seen some hung in some kids bedroom windows. This is a middle class enclave in NE England like, not sure what your point is. Just listening to the rest is politics podcast there. The point was made we've touched on previously. Hamas are now jihadists.They don't care about humanity and suffering in this life, they don't want peace. Israel can't appease them even if they wanted to. We keep ignoring the religious dimension here but it's both the cause and the reason there can be no peace with this group.

I haven't seen any Israeli or Palestinian flags here. Given the nature of this crisis, I would feel uneasy with both or either. No US flags after 9/11 either. Ukraine, yes, plenty. Why? I think because it was in Europe, it was was a relatively new conflict involving a old common foe, Russia is a country committing these atrocities, not a terror group, and it was an attack against our own freedoms. Not only that, we directly received thousands of Ukrainian refugees and wanted to show solidarity at a physical level It was personal. Ujraine was and is the exception to the rule.

Well, war crimes aren't determined by the number of casualties necessarily. Both sides commit war crimes. A question for you though, given the stated aim of Hamas is not only the extermination of Israel but also the Jewish people, and given they were actually elected in Gaza, what do you think Israel should do? It's a massively fucked up situation with no solutions I can see.

I don't think that's either true or fair. Gloom has condemned the leadership of both sides. and if I'm not mistaken, is in support of a fair and functional two state solution. Part of the problem here is the asymmetric nature of the power, which means there will always be far more Palestinians killed and displaced compared with Israel. My own feeling is Israel must show restraint and patience now, not fall into the trap Hamas has set to ignite the entire region. Public buildings and hospitals must be protected, power and water must be restored, the evacuation order should be rescinded. Because otherwise it is clear Israel is commuting a war crime and no way should we support that. They will and we will though.

What? Stop being a silly Billy. Are the Tories fascists or bordering on it? There are 14 recognised signs of fascism. I personally count about 10 to 12 in the current government. Numbers 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14. So we're three quarters there. How many can you count?

Didn't even know Vickers still made armanents tbh. He'll be back outside M&S next week.

I hope you're pleased with yourself wasting all those police resources then.

Yes, we've been through this before, it was used down your neck of the wood in Swans, but not much outside of that I don't think personally. Then John Hall (who strangely was an MLF according to them) said something about a Geordie nation, and they collectively pissed themselves and clung on to the only term that existed that differentiated them from us, an insult invented by us. So yes, even their real nickname comes from us.

FYP.

I'm assuming its the population who know Brexit is failing but blame it on the tories not giving us a "proper" Brexit. The no deal cunts. I never even knew that cunt Habib was their co-leader, sure he isn't normally introduced on QT as such.

Hamza Yousaf's mother in law is in Gaza. Quite harrowing video here. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/13/wheres-peoples-hearts-humza-yousaf-mother-in-law-sends-tearful-video-from-gaza

I'm guessing they might merge with the tories with Farage offered a seat? But this would be a massive blow to any moderates left in the party and many floating voters. Kind of hope it happens tbh.

I mean if we had a racist, narcissistic, psychopath in power now in the US who is a literal traitor to his own country, what could possibly go wrong?

Oh, okay. Yeah, G&T, you're a cunt.

Aftermath of the conderence season, tories still fucked, Sunak declining. I mean youi'd think they'd be more fucked, but I guess this is their base. Love Truss in the popularity charts, dangling like a flaccid penis.