acrossthepond

I am a Spurs fan in peace. I haven't been on this forum before, this thread was made aware to us at glory glory by one of our more annoying members that regularly stirs up trouble either amongst ourselves or other fans but anyway I do take issue with several points. On what basis have you come to the conclusion that our support do not care about football? You may not recognise the League cup as a major trophy, I hope that has nothing to do with the fact Newcastle United has never won that competition, but it is a piece of silverware, it is a way of obtaining European football albeit the UEFA cup. I would agree that it is less prestigious than the FA cup but writing it off completely is ludicrous. If Newcastle won the league cup next season, I'm sure you would feel differently. Aside from anything it would end your trophy drought. The other thing I take issue with is the all time league table. How you can make a comparision of 2 modern day football clubs based on the fact you were in the football league before us, 103 years ago, is fantastical and can hardly be used as an argument over which team is more popular/bigger/successful. The figures given out by other spurs fans regarding the waiting list for a season ticket are correct but also misleading. A fair portion of that 21,000 on the waiting list want to have a season ticket in very specific parts of the stadium. Parklane end, the shelf and Paxton. This is due to the price and atmosphere. Having sat in the west stand, paying twice what I normally pay in the south, I can see why. Objectively speaking, with a 55 - 60,000 seater stadium, we would no doubt struggle to fill it on a mid week Carling cup tie against Southend if the ticket prices are not slashed accordingly. If the team was in a poor run of form (which happens regularly, at least twice a season) then even on saturday 3pm kickoffs against Stoke or Wigan we probably wouldn't reach capacity. If the prices were reasonable and transport wasn't as much of an issue as it is now then it might be different. Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspur are both big clubs. In the top 10 historically biggest clubs in English Association Football history. You have to nit pick over which is bigger or better. Arguably Spurs currently are doing better but 10 years ago Newcastle were the much better side and should have won the league. Anyway good luck over the weekend, I like Kinnear a lot for obvious reasons, may the best team (spurs ) win Bit long but what an amazingly not shit post. The bolded member wouldn't be a certain lovely lad by the name of Danny B would it? We certainly would feel different about winning the League Cup - ask anyone on here and they'll tell you they'd snap your hands off for it. The issue we take exception to is Spurs fans coming on here and acting big because they've won the League Cup. Boro won it too - does that make them a big club? You're certainly doing better at the moment, I don't mind holding my hands up and saying it. This is largely due to the fact that you now appear to have a manager running the club without board interference. He could be a trained monkey, but if he was picking his own players he'd be better than the smoke-and-mirrors shit we have now. Good luck, you will need it.

most unlike that cunt not to be prostituing himself for the role, speaking of cunts, has Allardyce whored himself out yet? Why, yes, he has But getting back to Souness, how can he have the gall to rule himself out of any job at all?

It's more of an Arab thing actually. The reasoning is that shoes step on dirt, and so pointing your shoe's sole at someone implies they are dirt. It also has religious significance - during the haj, pilgrims throw shoes and stones at a stone pillar that symbolises Satan. Brilliant duck by Bush, I'll give him that much. He can laugh but the Iraqis certainly aren't laughing, this is deadly serious to them.

FYP.

Michael Owen, Michael Owen That little half-Welsh shite. Michael Owen, Michael Owen Bangs them in in black and white! Michael Owen, Michael Owen He's stayed out the treatment room. Michael Owen, Michael Owen He's the hero of the Toon! (Michael Owen, Michael Owen He'll be leaving very soon.)

We must build on this. Fantastic win though!

I hope Kinnear learns a lesson from this game...leave Duff on the bench. Defence looked a tad shaky in the first half but class in the second, what's that, 3 away clean sheets in a row? Nearly unheard of. That fact that we can get results like this makes throwing away points to Stoke and Wigan all the more painful but we've done very well here today.

Martins off, Ameobi on. Hope he's all right.

GET IN! That's surely 3 points in the bag for us now, great performance.

Martins having a sulk now, can't say I like that. He needs to keep grafting and chasing balls otherwise there is no point in him being on.

Must disagree, we've seen the wisdom of that vs. Stoke.

Martins will be subbed soon.

Also Jonas's interception there just outlines the lack of pace we were crying out for. I don't think Milner could've done that.

100% class finish by Owen, especially seconds before being levelled by whatever defender that was. Good play by Jonas too.

Martins has been good this half, no aimless shooting, good control, above average passing. But no supply as always. Defence looks absolutely shit. We're in trouble if we can't make simple six yard passes.

Jonas gets nobbled all the time, it's sad. We finally have someone who might qualify as a flair player and he can't take five steps without some cheeky foul. What a shot from Martins...we have to make these chances pay though.

"When I caught up with Ashley in the Caribbean" was particularly egregious. Are we sure it isn't Wor Al? (the other one)

Man City lose to a 90th minute Cahill goal at home. I can't see Hughes being given much more time if results keep up this way, although they'll probably buy a boatload of players in January. If we beat Portsmouth tomorrow we go to 14th!

What a surprise, they bring Jones back and they start winning. This is surely it for Ince if it ends this way.

Got the demo, I haven't experienced any problems, and I really like the 3D matchday. Watching Jonas slide through two defenders never gets old for me Xisco is rated quite highly in this version, as is this one lad I'd never heard of called Ignacio Gonzalez. Wonder who he plays for Anyone starting a season on something of a budget look for Abou Trika...he has an unbelievably low release clause at Al Ahly and is a class attacking midfielder.

Upson's a mercenary bastard and not actually that good. No thanks. Wrong on both counts. Don't really know where you get the mercenary part from but he is certainly a good player. He's not a stand out kind of player but he's very consistent which is just what we have lacked for years. I think he would work well with Colloccini too He's a mercenary in my eyes for how he abandoned Birmingham's promotion push mid-season for $$$ at West Ham. And he's a bit of a sicknote or has been in recent years, which is just what we don't need.

I'd be ok with him going to Huddersfield like.

Upson's a mercenary bastard and not actually that good. No thanks.

He and Anorthosis are gone. Shame for them...all right Temuri, pack Cypriot management in and come back to us!

Real Madrid have got to be challenging us for title of "worst-run top flight club." Somehow Ramos's stock rises high enough after being sacked to become Madrid manager? Or is it just that it never fell in Spain despite what a terrible job he did at Spurs? Also, what a way to install a manager. "Alright Juande, we've got a full treatment room, we're nine points behind, and did we mention the tiny matter of el clasico this weekend? Good luck!"