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Jammy bastards have made it 3-3. That's still a massive result mind although I think Ketsbaia will be angry not to have pulled off the win. Deco sent off for Chelsea cheaters also. I don't think there's a footballer on earth who I love to see getting marching orders more than Deco.

I was just about to revive this thread. What a result it would be. That'd send them through to the next round, if I'm not mistaken?

"If he's better than what we already have" Given is better than any keeper Spurs have fielded in the last decade and you're trying to compare him to that talentless Gomes? At any rate, if Shay is really ready to leave there'll be bigger teams in for him.

So ready for it all to be over. Obama or McCain, it doesn't matter who wins. The blind optimism that Obama inspires is sickening. He's going to change nothing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ord/7707054.stm Fairly good manager I always felt, knows how to work on a budget () and the downturn at Watford is not due to his own failings but to having to offload all his best players. We could do much worse imo. I know my last manager topic (Steve Bruce) turned into a slagfest for the ugly bastard but what do you think of Boothroyd?

Stunned by the result, canny canny performance, everything was great. Wish Martins could do this sort of thing more often. Jonas will be a legend in black and white soon if this sort of play continues. Did you see the way he passed Nigel Medi-Ocre? Like he wasn't even there. Colo was massive. Barton was good too. Too bad the refs are going to make a monkey of him far too often this season. Glad to see we didn't hoy Owen on for no reason also. Let him get back to full fitness. Thanks for the stream hostile_statue btw. :lol:

Which one of you is Simon Bird?

Any streams? Much appreciated.

This is going to be a tonking. I've got the jarhead helmet on and everything. Watch this one from behind the sofa lads. 3-0 at least to them, knowing Owen he'll get crocked too.

He was still trying to play the system I guess, and at that point I'm sure he was still being promised to keep Milner, and still get 3-4 quality players in................ and not for them to try and sell Owen and Barton out from under him too. But again where does he "lie"? It also makes the "oooo Keegan did something wrong" rubbish even more laughable, because clearly whatever background issues he had, he was still committed to make the club a success. That's just legal issues, with the best will in the world I wouldn't expect anyone to speak about stuff with the lawyers circling like vultures. You'll have to wait till after that side is sorted before anything like that happens. I find it hard to believe that Keegan had no reservations at the point where he gave that interview, yet he says nothing. All he can say is how great the new players are. I believe he shares some responsibility for allowing season ticket holders to believe they were buying into a glorious new future as he was still pedaling the "everything's rosey" line. You can't have it both ways with the wall of silence. Either you accept that Ashley can't speak either or you have to criticise Keegan too. If he was doing that (which I don't think he was) he wasn't very good at it going off the ST sales, was he? Keegan was reticent about the future of the club imo which put people off Ashley's buy 3 years or face a massive price hike idea. A lot of people just decided 'fuck it'. As for the last bit, I agree. It's fair to say neither side can really comment on what happened if legal proceedings are in place. But I don't think the club have been silent. The owner has in the main. Although the one big interview he did was, it transpires, a pack of lies. But the club has had plenty to say, anonymously or via Kinnear, about who is going to buy the club (more lies), the 'It is a fact' rubbish, Keegan's return being imminent with new owners (funny how that never happened), etc., etc. A lot of what has come out post-this debacle contradicts what came out of the club before. That's why I'm tending towards Ashley and his cronies being the real problem. I appreciate what you've being saying about Keegan leaving us in a mess, especially with the timing etc. btw. Although I think he must have felt he'd been really stitched-up and felt he had little option. Wenger and Ferguson agreed with him too. Anyone basically who understands anything about football knows KK's position had become untenable. People slingling mud at KK ought to take into account that it would actually have been far easier for him to stay picking up his £100k a month than look for confrontation. Here we are. If Keegan were really the money-grubbing mercenary you try to make him out to be, he could've easily just collected his cheques and the hell with the club, fans, etc. He knows his value to us and he knows he could've easily stayed on for years as manager even if we were stagnating, bringing in more of Wise and co's shit players, and generally going downhill. But because he cares about NUFC and its supporters, he did what he believed was right.

In the mathematical sense. Pigs'd sooner fly than Kinnear take us into Europe.

2-0 Bolton. I'd normally like to laugh at City crashing and burning, but somehow I don't find a lot of humour in this.

Bolton 1-0 City. ...

If this clown is still here in January we are in for a hellish second half of the season. He needs to be on his way very very soon. Of course the only way he'll go is after Ashley sells, which will never happen and was never happening, so before long it'll be 4-year contract, God save King Kinnear. :lol:

This is what makes me wonder about the accuracy of these tables.

...shoot me now. They pass us on goals scored now, sending us down to 19th ahead of Monday.

Or just petrol bombed them, either way works. Are my posts that sexy that you can't keep your grubby little hands off them? Can I expect you to stalk me as long as I post here and try to make a terrorist reference, usually with at least one smiley included, about everything I say? and all that shit. Zealots are fun. You just think it's a perfectly acceptable method of showing your "disapproval" is all, as you have clearly said yourself. Feel free to firebomb this post. That's funny, I thought I showed my disapproval of Ross and Brand without petrol bombing anyone. The bolded bit is an outright lie - I expect better from you. Usually you just try to hint at these things instead of making declarative statements so you never have to present any evidence. So what you're saying is yes, you do plan to stalk me and make a terrorist reference about everything I say, with at least one smiley included. Carry on then.

Stick to football like Stevie.

Is this a new development with this guy or has he always been like this? He didn't have a near-death experience in his life recently, lose a family member, anything like that?

Or was it that one of the clubs in the bottom two had a caretaker manager that was out of it's depth because the manager walked out when the transfer window closed and the other had a manager that couldn't adapt to the English game? It's a coincidence, unless you're saying Ramos would have done better if they didn't have a DOF? Do you think we would have been in the bottom two if Keegan was still here out of interest? As for Ashley, I don't think there is anyway back after all of the over the top actions by the boycoutters, however if they had given him a chance to see how he'd move on from Keegan then I'm confident he would have got a decent manager in like Deschamps and we would be in a better position than we're in now, the club has been left in limbo too long now and no manager or player would want to come here while it's so unstable. Yes. No. I think Ramos would've done better if a trained monkey (Comolli) wasn't in charge of his transfers. No matter what bollocks Levy comes out with about how the manager sanctioned every sale, Ramos is good enough to know that selling Defoe, Berbatov and Keane without signing PL-proven or world class replacements was a terrible idea. I think we would've beat Hull and Rovers easily if Keegan were still here, and drawn with West Ham. Man City was a great result so no knock on Kinnear there. There's a way back for Ashley: sack Wise and the rest of his cronies, stop lying to the fans, and open up the chequebook. Keegan's not coming back, we have to move on. If he's ready to then so am I but I very much doubt it. I blame Levy more than anyone for the problem Spurs had with a striker, he was more interested in getting as much as he could for Berbatov than worrying about a replacement, what he should have done was sold Berbatov for a few million less so they could have got Arshavin signed up before the deadline to sign him that was set by his club had passed, it was also well publicised that they didn't want to sell Keane which is why they reported Liverpool for tapping him up, we've seen our self with the likes of Hamann that when the likes of Liverpool come calling it's hard for the rest to hold onto the player, especially when their head had been turned. Seems strange people are blaming Comolli now for the quality of signings when most people were crying about them signing up the likes of Woodgate, Modric and Bentley ahead of us, not to mention Corluka, Hutton, Dos Santos, Gomes and Pavlyuchenko. Look at some of Comolli's real signings: Assou-Ekotto, Kaboul, Ricardo Rocha...the list goes on. All of the players you listed are established quality, except dos Santos and Gomes, who are both proving to be too lightweight and terrible, respectively. I'm talking about the ones he himself scouted out and signed up.

Or just petrol bombed them, either way works. Are my posts that sexy that you can't keep your grubby little hands off them? Can I expect you to stalk me as long as I post here and try to make a terrorist reference, usually with at least one smiley included, about everything I say? and all that shit.

Feel a little bad for him. He's obviously been told to spout forth this shite and who can blame him? It's the only job he's had in four years. If he really wants to stay in the game, this is his last chance and of course he'll do whatever the man who's paying him says to do.

Or was it that one of the clubs in the bottom two had a caretaker manager that was out of it's depth because the manager walked out when the transfer window closed and the other had a manager that couldn't adapt to the English game? It's a coincidence, unless you're saying Ramos would have done better if they didn't have a DOF? Do you think we would have been in the bottom two if Keegan was still here out of interest? As for Ashley, I don't think there is anyway back after all of the over the top actions by the boycoutters, however if they had given him a chance to see how he'd move on from Keegan then I'm confident he would have got a decent manager in like Deschamps and we would be in a better position than we're in now, the club has been left in limbo too long now and no manager or player would want to come here while it's so unstable. Yes. No. I think Ramos would've done better if a trained monkey (Comolli) wasn't in charge of his transfers. No matter what bollocks Levy comes out with about how the manager sanctioned every sale, Ramos is good enough to know that selling Defoe, Berbatov and Keane without signing PL-proven or world class replacements was a terrible idea. I think we would've beat Hull and Rovers easily if Keegan were still here, and drawn with West Ham. Man City was a great result so no knock on Kinnear there. There's a way back for Ashley: sack Wise and the rest of his cronies, stop lying to the fans, and open up the chequebook. Keegan's not coming back, we have to move on. If he's ready to then so am I but I very much doubt it.

At the end of the day, I hardly think swearing and insinuating - an insinuation later found to be true - that someone had slept with some slapper warrant the kind of ridiculous furore that's erupted over this. But I also do think that the two of them acted inappropriately (not "offensively" but inappropriately) by calling up a harmless old man who had done them no wrong and harassing him, and calling it "funny." As has been said if they weren't celebrities, they could've got into hot water for this kind of thing. So I think the BBC should've issued no comment on the whole situation, waited for the uproar to die down, and then a few weeks later quietly told them to get on their bikes. But it's already been blown way out of proportion.

Thought Eccleston had no personality, myself. The fact that he looked like he just escaped from prison didn't really help either. Tate was terrible - both Billie Piper and Freema whatever her face is were miles better. John Cleese as the Doctor would be very...special.