Howay

"Bye bye NUFC!" Is a caption by him? or is it that NUFC stats account doing it?

We did eventually get THE King though!

We accounted for nearly all of Kenny Millers goals that year in all.

True enough, just 4 counter attacks for their goals, they barely had the ball out their half ffs.

Aye I remember that one, I remember Bellamy climbing all over the back of a player to get our goal and the ref just letting it go probably just felt sorry for us.

Aye it always makes me laugh when I hear pundits point to Allardyce leaving as the reason we went down, we were tragic under that bloke and even if it didn't happen that year (which it probably would have) it was coming. The fact is that most fans had pretty much given up hope of him getting sacked by the time Ashley did get round to sacking him anyway. I remember saying I'd rather Championship football than Allardyce and I still stick by that team under him was utterly depressing to watch. Both teams should have been docked points for that Fulham game, it was embarrassing. We've watched some right fucking shite during Ashley's tenure

The two games I'd challenge anyone to watch and stick up for him are that Portsmouth drubbing at home where we went 3-0 down after 20 mins and the Fulham away game we won 1-0 on a last minute Barton penalty. Absolute fucking shite.

That's it like, it's always different watching a team week in week out than looking at a form table or a recent game and passing comment. Like IndianMag said I think most pundits couldn't give a fuck about most teams outside the bigger sides so all they do is take a quick look at recent results and see a couple wins and go "he's doing a good job".

I'm not a fan of Howard either.

Aye I thought that, he managed Southampton in fucking league one with players like Ricky Lambert, Adam Lallana etc. So his win record at us was 38% just 2% better than Bruce who has managed utter dross his entire career, and 6% lower than Moyes who probably had a tighter budget than Pardew for the majority of his career. What a fucking tragic article, guess we all give him what he wanted which was clicks. This hounded out bollocks needs to stop as well, the real reasons he left was money, control of transfers and a return to London. As if a complete egotistical chode like Alan Pardew gave a flying fuck what the fans thought of him .

Aye, they are a selling club but it's fucking Swansea is that the level of club you see us as Blackandwhite? They're also probably not in a financial position where they can turn down that level of money, not many are, Newcastle now is probably stable enough to turn down 20m bids for Sissoko but they wont. As Alex and Andrew have pointed out Swansea are also willing to give the cups a go and they will probably re invest a decent amount of the money in this window with a replacement which is something we don't do under Ashley, we tend to feel confident we can survive until the summer where players are cheaper essentially, as Alex said, giving up on the season.

Aye, he'll do well there then move on to a decent Championship side with fans of that club then pointing to the fact that he played at Oldham. The chants will no doubt be brutal like you say

Yeah I'm pretty sure they're confident we can limp over that 40 point line for another season of exhilarating safety.

Aye, sometimes the quiet to the media part of Ashley's ownership works well but tbh it can be pretty boring to follow things like this. I think it would be fine if we were all confident they were going to go and make a good decision but there is the nagging worry they're going to appoint some random old English bloke out of nowhere, if the rumours of the choice being fully up to Charnley and Carr are true it does settle me a bit about those worries though.

He can put you to fucking sleep though.

Sounds about right, unless we can actually put a good head coach in place who can actually create a system that makes players better rather than hoping talented players can improve a weak system.

I'd certainly hope that's true, his 2 games have been fucking terrible tbh and the majority of the problem has been his selections and subs. I'd love to see someone brought in before the Chelsea game, I'd still let Carver stay in charge for it as I don't think it'll matter too much and gives the new guy over a week to settle in before his first game in charge and we'll probably get battered either way.

Yeah I figured his value around 12m which is why I'm worried that's what we let him go for that. I'd hope it's 20m as I don't see the need in selling him for anything but a good amount over his value, then again I'm sure it's part of the agreement of bringing these players in that we'll be reasonable with the fees when a big team comes in. Just yet another player that needs replaced, I really don't want Anita filling his role.

Aye just think it's ticking that French player box while getting one of the better French players in that position. Shame tbh as he's a good player to watch (like Cabaye was) I hope we've held them to a fucking ransom for him mind but no doubt it'll be a 12m or so fee.

And to be fair Carver is a proper knacker

Aye good summary Fish. Agree that it is probably most likely it'll be a foreign coach as it fits his ideal system. The problem with the old guard idea is you end up with people like Redknapp and there's no way blokes like that would be comfortable with someone like Charnley picking which players come and go. I also don't think there's any chance of Carver being the long term option tbh, he doesn't have it in his locker to be a manager at this level and although I think he'll possibly be head coach until the end of the season I think even that is a risk of relegation. I think McClaren is probably the most likely of the English managers linked although I'm not sure how comfortable he is in a head coach role (was that the set up at FC Twente?). As with any decision like this under Ashley it's an utter fucking mystery tbh but I do agree the foreign coach option is probably the most viable for what his plan seems to be.

Well he doesn't have to worry about any of that, he can walk around Nice with his kite out and not have to be judged.

By honesty is he meaning none of them lied about how fit their lasses were to him?