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Is the bigger point he made not that Barton wasnt offered a contract and he wanted to stay?.... Barton was offered a contract at Christmas and turned it down. True-ish. Talks had stalled. Then there were to be no more talks. The contract that was offered in December/January was withdrawn in May and he was going to be allowed to leave at the end of his present contract. No compromise solution offered. No "final offer"talks , just nothing. So when he started abusing the club via twitter he was angling for a convenient move this season rather than next. But the withdrawl of the contract offer sent him a message dont you think? Of course Barton being Barton he couldnt keep his mouth shut, more by his own and McKay's devious design if you ask me. I'm certainly not a huge Barton fan, for varoious reasons. But he's the sort of player we needed to keep just to keep treading water. I was thinking that he wouldnt start the season in the first team v Arsenal anyway..I think 2 goals in pre season wouldve seen Vuckic starting in place of him. But that wouldve been just another slap in the face for him, another nail in his coffin, another message saying "NOT WANTED". Before he started (fuckin stupidly if he truly wanted to stay) slating the club via twitter he'd got that message loud and clear. So if you ask me he and his agent engineered this but only after being forced into by a club who are showing, yet again, they know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Is the bigger point he made not that Barton wasnt offered a contract and he wanted to stay?....if we're taking WM at his word? He also said he was willing to take a paycut. And wasnt that all public knowlegde around xmas last year?....did the tweets start after he knew he was being forced out by any chance?.... I've no doubt Barton was angling for a move in this window and I said so yesterday. But the club wanted rid of him, simple as that. You could say that Barton owed the fans something due to his incarceration etc but its difficult to stay somewhere when you employers have made it plain you're not required. Enrique next. Fucks sakes

What was that about? Did you know he insists on the rest of the commentary team referring to him as Sir? These are his mates ffs. Does Botham think this is still the fuckin middle ages? I liked him walking the alps with elephants but why do the likes of him think the rest of us should tug the forelock to him?

I agree. Some brothers are total mugs though. Look at the Krays. Clever. But seriously Steve the same people who manipulated us into two world wars are now manipulating the old religious dogmas and lies and fanning the flames of hatred cause they is worried, cause the shit is hitting the fan and they need us to think about little things and look for enemies amongst ourselves and forget about them and the broken promises and the broken lives across vast continents of pain and inequality. Don't fall for it. There are those in the muslim community and those in the far right who as history has repeatdly shown us are tools - tools of the old enemy: the elite - the elite who never got voted in and answer to no-one and contunue to plunder the world. THEY are the enemy. Always.

The Prestige....irritatingly twisty turny and barely followable shite if you ask me, only marginally saved by the incomparable Johansson pouting her way through it in her underwear

What do you think of the issue in the article i.e. Anjem Choudary fly posting racially imflammortary in inner city neighbourhoods?

I think Nolan and Allardyce missed each other at SJP by a few months, almost unbleiveably he was signed by Joe Kinnear. He got a pay rise (50k a week?...dont quote me on that mind) and a five year deal, which was probably the deciding factor in the deal He shouldnt have been offered that sort of deal by NUFC (his legs have gone, no doubt about that) but there shouldve been a compromise to reward his efforts in the previous 2 seasons, you know,the sort of thing that well run football clubs tend to do...

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton If I wanted to leave, I'd just come out and say "I want to leave" Things need addressing as am not prepared to go through a relegation again "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton And again it would be left to those magnificent fans to pick up the remnants of their once great football club. #hadenoughofcertainpeople 7 minutes ago » Joey7Barton Joseph Barton If it wouldn't effect team morale and cause unrest within the dressing room, am certain Jose's comments would be the tip of the iceberg..... 10 minutes ago » Joey7Barton Joseph Barton If only we as players could tell the fans exactly how it is, without them above fining us lots of money. There will be a time and a place. 31 minutes ago » Oh dear....anyone think he might be angling for a move?.....

Morgan out to the 2nd Indian delivery of a new ball......70 untroubled runs beforehand against part time spinners and other rubbish. then the first time the ball moved he's out. That lad isnt good enough at the top level. Jonathon Trott comes out...as mentioned above that is a bit of a surprise.....and very nearly gets caught lbw first ball.

Putting aside that this is another Choudray inspired publicity stunt/wind up (also see his 'plans' for Wooton Basset) how do those who are putting these posters up intend to enforce a 'sharia law zone'?...if they incite violence over this am pretty sure they can be jailed for it like that bell end who wore the suicide bombers vest at some protest a couple of years back.

Blowers nearly had a heart attack on TMS Boycott just saying before Broad's first wicket in that spell : "I saw the lad's fatha this morning and told him the lad should be pitching it oop a bit" He eventually go 4 wickets for no runs in 3 overs. Class stuff...and he's just got them all out for 288. Broad 6-46 in that innings, his best test figures. India lead by 67 and they reckon it will be easier to bat the longer the match goes on.

Had a cracking weekend lined up at camp bestival http://www.campbestival.net/ However, Mrs PL has deigned that now is just the right time to be diagnosed with shingles. Nice. Her coats on a shoogly peg, I don't mind telling you.....

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Over 30, no resale value. What you'd do is irrelevent, its what the club's policy is that is the deterimining factor here. Ashley woouldnt want him at his age, and Bellamy wouldnt drop his wages to 30k (max) to come back to a club where he's despised by at least half the supporters. Unless he's gone fuckin mad since May.

90k a week. Have a word with yourself

Who in the mind of fuck is going to pay 8million for a player who can walk away in 12 months for nothing? Liverpool will come in with no more than 48 hrs of the window left and offer no more than 4 mill and we'll take it; Iain Harte will come in on loan from Reading and Pardew will release a statement saying he's happy to have such "an experienced player in the squad"

Their '99 divi 3 average is often as exaggerated as much as the mackems following.....29k is fairly good, but fuck knows where they got the 9k extra fans compared with their 19k in the division above 11 years earlier http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/england.htm Most of them are ok, got to say that really as I should've been one...mothers from West Gorton, where Shameless was filmed. Proud to say no rags among my family

In a half decent spurs side he how many league goals did he get last season?...2?...9 mill?...hes past it iyam...definetly at that price.

I wasn't neither. I can't think of one good looking jewish person though, always big noses and eyes too close together. Good way to check if that post might be termed dodgy by some...substitute 'jewish' with 'black' and see if anyone calls you racist...

If he was world class I think Barca or Real would be in for him. Cant picture the Real left back but for me Jose's not in Abidal's class. And thats why hes still here. At the moment. Now doing at Liverpool as it looks like Dalglish has had other priorities (what happened to 'building from the back' btw?) and now has to sell to buy. So that leaves which clubs willing to pay an half decent left back 50k a week? And none of the promotion side who stayed after relegation were completely motivated by 'righting a wrong'....a lot of them wouldve struggled to get the same contracts elsewhere. But he is the sort of player we should be hanging on to if we want to progress. Sad really. :-(

40-50k, not much difference really. The fact is that at 19 when he signed it was a huge contract for a player of his age and experiance. Theres only 2 clubs in Spain that pay that sort of money. That and his twitter outburst may tell us what truly motivates him. I dont really have a problem with that but its the effect all this has had on the rest of the squad. He plainly thought he wouldnt be with the squad in the US and has let us all know how unhappy he is about the situation. I wonder if he wouldve stopped Liverpool getting twatted 3 nowt at Hull over the weekend? :-D

We'd get him on a free! Mike would like that. 9 years after Solano finished him as a player at the top level the day we beat Leeds 3-4.....its not beyond the realms of possibility

Who was in the championship team of the season at left back? Was it the lad we trled to sign from Swansea?..

Thought I'd clipped on mumsnet by mistake its just words on a screen, ffs this place is getting like lord of the flies Lord of the Flies is just words on a page. precisely, so why take seriously the opinions of a bloke you've never met and probably wouldnt enjoy sharing a pint with?...I don't get it...