Monkeys Fist

"Speak up caller, you're through."

Nothing. "You can pretend to be serious; you can’t pretend to be witty." - Sacha Guitry

This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. the majority on here Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out.you Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.yeah, lets put aside the cuts eh, then everythings rosy. ffs man, its all about the cuts The cuts were going to come whoever was in power. Even Red Ed is saying that he would have simply delayed them for a few years. Can you imagine Labour after 3 years in power and on the run in to a general election suddenly deciding the time was right to take the right action. Ofcourse not, they would have simply fudged and put it off again, all the while dragging the country even further down the shitter. From a political point of view, the only time any party in power could take this action is at the start of their term in office. This at least gives that party the chance to reap the benefit of the action taken. The fact that the "majority" on here are anti tory is meaningless tbf. There are quite a few young uns, who know little of the world, quite a few of the Guardian brigade like Renton and others like NJS, Alex and possible yourself who have and always will hate the Tories. There are quite a few older wiser members on here who are not as entrenched in their views. Patronised by a cabby, oh me oh my So, since you are old, wise and not at all entrenched in your views, you'll admit that Normal Dave lied outright when they said before the election they would not touch child benefit The best PM of your lifetime is a dirty fibber Correct?

Badly, as expected

This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. the majority on here Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out.you Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.yeah, lets put aside the cuts eh, then everythings rosy. ffs man, its all about the cuts

Tis only the beginning. This is the gentle slap, preparing the ground for the almighty kick in the jewels to come. " Look, we've even targeted our own support, so the plebs can't complain"

Wrong again Do you break the £44k threshold though? Cant really take anyone srious on this issue who doesnt at least see this as a very good first move. Well off people dont need benefits. What about those with a household income of 80k? Thats why I said "first move". Lets look at the facts. 85% of people currently receiving child benefit wont be affected by this. of the ones who are, there will be some oddities as you describe. These will be miniscule. To make this change problem free you would then have to start means testing every family, filling in forms, more wasted in pen pushing than would probably be saved. I would rather see the 1 billion saving than get all heated up over the few exceptions. You have similar oddities in most current tax systems now. Hopefully this is just the sort of thing that will be tidied up when the single benefit comes in. I can see this being really painful for single-earning familes with several kids tbh, I don't think the 'oddities will be miniscule' either. Easy to applaud it when it doesn't affect you though (assuming you don't declare wages in excess of £44k). This is going to piss off a lot of Conservative voters actually, so in a way I applaud Cameron for being brave. You absolute tit, it only effects people paying higher rate tax!!!!! Yes you have a legal eagle wife and a cushy public sector job so some "poor bint" on plus £45,000 will probably seem hard done by to you Go and tell your little sob story to the majority who are on piss poor wages and see how much sympathy you get. Fucking astounding! Cameron could get up tomorrow and announce he had cured cancer and your response would simply be "What about the blind, he's done fuck all for the blind. You are an absolute tool of the highest order Chomp chompity chomp. Chomp chomp.

Took me a second or two to realise the ref was a Fraulein! I'm slacking!

The town centre has several interesting/nice buildings. They are, however, like diamonds in a field of vomit. It's not so much the architecture which let's it down, as the feeling you have walked into a poundshop theme park. The general air of neglect is overpowering. None of which is helped by the fact it's populated with the most backward, racist, bitter sub-humans on the planet. Durham is nice though.

I'll bet he's heard of Boris Johnson. Next username methinks?

Aged 95. Mr. Grimsda.... Ugh.

Watching it his ankle briefly appears to bend horribly, but that could be due to his entire lower leg being out of line. The encouraging thing is that no mention has been made of any other damage than the break.

Piss poor. Piss poor. TBS x2

Cunt indeed, I'd be getting my lass rohypnolled for a threesome.

"You just have to look where the fucking ball is as he's still smashing into Ben Arfa's legs to see what it was like," Fucking amen to that.

Ha. I snooze I loose. I snooze I loose.

I'm guessing you mean a STD. Good one, I take it you thought of that yourself? No your mum gave it to me. Saying you referred to my mother to my mother as a prostitute in the first post you then go on to say you had intercourse with my mother, which tells me you're sexually frustrated and would shag a whore. Made yourself look stupid, eh? To be sure, to be sure.

Lennon's last hit? The pavement.

Blue pop lakes and garlic sauce volcanos.

Irish Mackem? Bit rich from a rich window cleaner. Fixed

Boxing Day. Wonder if Tiote has a little black book?

Well there's a fucking shock. Useless arsewipes.

That's the rumour going round Forest Hall

I agree Morning all!!